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porsskar
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Posted: 24 Jan. 2011 at 3:59pm |
Planning to buy a 2A windshield complete with frame/ accessories. Are there many vendors/producers?.
I am not looking for the cheapest new produced product, I am looking for a quality thing of same level as it was in the 40s'n with the Willys text. The ones I have seen i Scandinavia are all sort of rusty and not attractive restoration projects. |
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Sten from Finland
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Roberto Flores
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Hi!
I have just found it at Ebay.com. I think it´s a MD Juan product: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep-Willys-CJ2A-NEW-Steel-Windshield-Frame-Kit-46-53-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem518cdcc791QQitemZ350255630225QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories |
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garage gnome
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Yeah, that is an MD Juan repro.
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Nate
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samcj2a
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Sten,
To be clear, I do not know of anyone who has a high opinion of any MD Jaun products, although I cannot speak with any authority about whether or not their reproduction windshields are at all close to the originals. Perhaps someone who has tried to use an MD Jaun windshield on a Willys tub can tell us about the product. That said, if it were me, I would not use an MD Jaun body part if I could avoid it. Their reputation is horrible.
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flattiesrule
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Sam,
Who/what is MD Juan? I've seen that referenced many times on this forum pertaining to repro parts. I'm not familiar with this supplier.
thx,
Bob
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samcj2a
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MD Juan is a manufacturer of reproduction Jeep parts based in the Philippines.
http://www.mdjuan.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=192 They have a number of dealers as the list at the page above shows. Omix-Ada - the seller of the windshield in this thread - is one of them. |
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F Bill
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The Omix frames were known for poor fit at the cowl area...OEM fit it isn't. Plan on tweaking it a bunch to get the fit right. MD Juan has claimed improvement in this area but ......unless I could check it out on my jeep first I would be pretty skeptical of the fit.
If your outer frame is solid, the sheetmetal skin can be replaced, and there is a farily decent but expensive inner being made nowadays....I beleive Ron FItzpatrick sells them , maybe midwest military(EDIT..$390), and possibly classic enterprises(EDIT>>NO FOR CLASSIC>)...You will have as much in it as a new repro, but things will fit. Edited by F Bill - 25 Jan. 2011 at 1:48am |
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sibaropsis
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I'm in the same boat as Sten, and will eventually need a new windshield. I have two frames, one bad and one worse. Both have had the arms below the windshield broken and repaired numerous times. I might be able to salvage the inner windshield frame from one or both, and possibly the skin with Willys stamp from one, but I'm going to need entirely new (or at least structurally sound) outer frames, as well as the lollipops. I hear nothing but bad things about MD Juan and Omix-ADA, but if they are the only one making new reproductions, what option do I (any of us) have?
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p3ferris
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I read recently that you have to first rebend the arms as they are made to go back too far.
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porsskar
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I did not intend to get producers / vendors into problems, I am sure they try to function in a market place in a decent way, otherwise they vanish over time.
My real question was really how many good producers are out there? Got the picture it is only one? Or? |
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Sten from Finland
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samcj2a
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To expand on what Sam said, I think there is only 1 producer of the outer windshield frame (MD Juan), so if it's bad, they all are since they came from the same place. A compilation (in my mind) of the statements regarding windshields over the past few years. 1, repro inner doesn't fit original outer (and vice versa). 2. The MB/GPW inner frame is the same as a 2A and there is a quality inner reproduction frame being made and it will fit the stock outer frame, 3. The MD Juan inner and outer set fit together but have to be tweaked to sit correctly on a stock cowl. At least that's how my memory remembers the conversations.
Edited by bkreutz - 25 Jan. 2011 at 10:07pm |
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samcj2a
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Because it was hilarious and also informative about MD Juan quality, I wanted to post a link to Morgan's (wyowillys46) review of his MD Juan top bows. Sadly, the post is there but his external link does not work. I PMed him asking for a copy. but haven't heard from him yet. |
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ralf
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I have an MD Juan windshield and 3 stock windshields. But I never compared them. I can pull them out and take comparison pics. I will try to do this over next weekend.
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sireland67
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I know this for a fact because I have one.
A MD Juan windshield fits a MD Juan tub with no issues.
I did not have to adjust anything.
As far as fitting a stock tub, I have not tried it.
I am sure Ralf will post some pics comparing an original vs repo.
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ralf
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Mine is mounted on an early 46 column shift. I just slapped it on with a new gasket. Didn't pay much attention to fit and finish cause it was summer and it was my driver.
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sibaropsis
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Just how much tweaking is required to get a MD Juan windshield to fit onto an original tub? Is this something that could be done with the pipe bender described by SamCJ2a in the "Making your own windshield frame?" thread in Tech Q&A? Thanks.
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