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48willystodd ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 14 Oct. 2009 Location: SW Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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Is there a steering box upgrade for th CJ2a? I am also worried about the "death wobble" I have heard of using CJ5 steering box, are there upgrade kits available or a recomended parts list?? By the way, this is my first post! My 14yr old son and I brought home a 48 willys, it has been lots of fun to work with him on it.
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Only in a Jeep!
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GaryArf ![]() Member ![]() Sponsor Member Joined: 21 July 2005 Location: Baxter MN Status: Offline Points: 3905 |
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I can appreciate your concern about the early "primitive" steering configuration of the 2A. That said, This early set-up worked fine if it was maintained. It would be alot more work to change it to the later set-up than to fix it for what it is.
The other downside of making this a big "later ugrade" project is...more than likely your Jeep will be less desireable upon resale.
If your heart is into changing this, here is a great source that has alot of guys who have done it and have a different outlook.
And WELCOME! ![]() Edited by GaryArf - 15 Oct. 2009 at 11:39am |
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rocketeer ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Sponsor Member Joined: 26 June 2008 Location: Lehighton, PA Status: Offline Points: 3473 |
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Changing (upgrading) the steering box isn't going to fix a death wobble. Worn kings pins, loose idler arm, bad tie-rod ends, loose relay rod, improper toe-in adjustment, bad knuckle seals, and out of balance tires are the causes of death wobble. As GaryArf said, if maintained properly the factory steering gear works just fine.
Welcome also. Larry |
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48willystodd ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 14 Oct. 2009 Location: SW Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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Thanks for the help, like all 60+ year old vehicles, it will take some tlc. I will start inspecting and replacing your mentioned parts. Great website!!!
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ralf ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Sponsor Member x 2 Joined: 06 May 2008 Location: Fayetteville WV Status: Offline Points: 4861 |
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I am going to the Saginaw steering swap because the PO hacked out the entire Ross system and welded a Saginaw box to the front frame horn. I had to replace both frame horns and the tubular cross member. It also had a funky GM tilt column. Someone gave me a 1950 Jeepster column with wheel and steering box. The Jeepster used a Saginaw type set up but the box is a lot smaller than a Saginaw box. I am using a late 60's Chevelle manual Saginaw box and may use the Jeepster steering wheel with the big Willys emblem just to be different. I have been bookmarking every Saginaw swap website I can find and saving photos as well as taking photos of the swap. I hope to see some at the Mason Dixon gathering next weekend.
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1948 CJ2A 1953 Ford NAA Golden Jubilee Tractor 1941 J-3 Cub 1957 Farmall Cub Low Boy tractor 1942 Clarktor WW2 tug |
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rocnroll ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Sponsor Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Tuscumbia, AL Status: Offline Points: 13563 |
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Oh yeah?
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'48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
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Ritt ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Bethel CT Status: Offline Points: 1989 |
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Cool Roc, you only need one gauge........................
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1948 2A, "RAISIN COOKIES THAT LOOK LIKE CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES ARE THE MAIN REASON I HAVE TRUST ISSUES" |
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rocnroll ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Sponsor Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Tuscumbia, AL Status: Offline Points: 13563 |
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Actually no, those two slots that look like air cond. vents are gauges.....so I have the normal four plus the tach.
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'48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
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hillbilly21 ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Sponsor Member Joined: 18 June 2006 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 4964 |
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NOTHINGS NORMAL on FRANKIE !!!!!!!!!
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John 46-2a ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Mar. 2009 Location: Parksville B.C. Status: Offline Points: 163 |
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ralf ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Sponsor Member x 2 Joined: 06 May 2008 Location: Fayetteville WV Status: Offline Points: 4861 |
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I have a black Willys logo steering wheel from a late 50's Willys pickup and a tan steering wheel with Willys logo from the 1950 Jeepster. Looks like I will have to use the tan one.
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ralf ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Sponsor Member x 2 Joined: 06 May 2008 Location: Fayetteville WV Status: Offline Points: 4861 |
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Thanks for the pic John.
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1947 CJ2A
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rocnroll ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Sponsor Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Tuscumbia, AL Status: Offline Points: 13563 |
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Just for those wanting the 'stock' look....the splines are the same, by the way.
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'48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
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copicmarker ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 02 Aug. 2012 Location: bavaria Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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Nice steering wheel. From what Willys is it taken?
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rocnroll ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Sponsor Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Tuscumbia, AL Status: Offline Points: 13563 |
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Wagon or truck.....but that one's been modified some, it's 15".
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hugh ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Nov. 2011 Location: Winnipeg Status: Offline Points: 261 |
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Seem,s I can never leave well enough alone. I decided to use Herm the Overdrive guys steering upgrade system. It uses a reverse rotation Ford box mounted just ahead of the motor mount. It was not cheap and it took quite a bit of fabrication to make it fit. With a V6 motor there is more room so if you want to keep the flathead four be prepared to modify his brackets. Here is a picture of the mounted box, Herm claims it is a more rigid system then mounting a Saginaw ahead of the round crossmember.
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jeep - the toughest four letter word on wheels
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FarmJeep99 ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr. 2018 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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This picture is very close to what I’m building. Can you post more pics on how you connected your column? Thanks
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