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    Posted: 22 Sep. 2023 at 12:41pm
I’m starting my wiring. I think I will follow your second diagram (with alterations for single wire alternator). How did your turn out?  Did you stick to that diagram?  Also I want to put in a fuse box. Where would that go in your diagram?  
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Good info. Thank you
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Does anyone have a wiring diagram that includes the turn indicator? Please help 
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Originally posted by Bruce W Bruce W wrote:

 Hawk - Stop a minute, blink your eyes, shake your head, now look at your picture.
 CJ2-A's use a three-post connector on the LF fender - one for the high beams, one for the low beams, and one for the park lights. The turn signal wires connect together with bullet connectors. In your picture, you can see the bullet connectors hiding behind the other wires. You also might want to get that extra nut out of there before it starts some mischief.   BW



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 Hawk - Stop a minute, blink your eyes, shake your head, now look at your picture.
 CJ2-A's use a three-post connector on the LF fender - one for the high beams, one for the low beams, and one for the park lights. The turn signal wires connect together with bullet connectors. In your picture, you can see the bullet connectors hiding behind the other wires. You also might want to get that extra nut out of there before it starts some mischief.   BW
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The yellows and blues are for the front turn signals. Walcks doesn't know what type of signals you might use, so they don't have a finished end.

If you have chosen to use turn signals, a 3-point terminal block is used in most cases. This is where the yellows all come together. Original terminal blocks had 2 terminals points. You didn't need more than 2 because the original 2A set up did not have turn signals.

This photo might help...





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I'm asking about Walcks wiring diagram. They have  (4) wires grouped together - (2) yellow with one black tracer, and (2) blue with one white tracer. I'm so confused about where these go. The tail lights and the brakes lights are the sam lights, right? And it also says "Connector at terminal block" for one of the the yellow with black tracer. I though there was only one terminal block - up front for the headlights? 

I'm not even sure if I've given enough info to get an answer. 
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I wanted to let everyone know that on Saturday my 1948 Willys CJ2A turned over.

I've never felt so good.

With that being said thank you everyone.

A recap: the above wiring diagrams are going to get you exactly what you need.

Keep in mind that if you are using a ballast resistor it's a simple fix... Just put the ballast between your ignition switch and your coil.

Your coil will more than most likely state of your need a ballast resistor or resistance wire on the front of it. For example my new coil says "use with external resistor".

If it doesn't say something like that - chances are it has an internal resistor.

It's there to reduce the voltage so that your points, which are in your distributor, don't get too much voltage - if they do it will shorten thier life greatly.

Also your coil ground through the distributor - so if you are trying to start an old jeep - you need to also make sure the points are good or else your coil won't even be able to send spark in the first place.

I'm extremely greatful for everyone's help.

Thank you.

Edited by CJTWOA - 27 June 2016 at 2:51am
As always: thank you.
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All the sudden a blast from the past, just what I was pondering... A simple, get the thing started, clean up your dash...saved me a how to post. An ampmeter is just a terminal block with a needle jumping around. Throw in a one wire alternator and simple.
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Charles, I stayed up a few late nights reading your posts over at 3A, hope you,re getting close.

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Originally posted by CJTWOA CJTWOA wrote:

Thank you Charles!

So a 4-post solenoid is the wrong solenoid?

I was under the impression that with a 4 post solenoid you can send that 4th post - (the I post) - can be sent directly to the (-) on the coil to send full power to the coil during initial start at key turn (bypassing the ballast resistor momentarily).

After that once the key springs back to run position the "I" post looses power (along with the starter pole) and then the power from the Run position on the key takes over and runs through the ballast resistor at a reduced voltage.

Maybe this thinking is why I'm having issues.


I believe you're correct on how the four-post solenoid works, but I'm not positive. Whether or not it's the 'correct' one is based on how you wire up the system.

If you want the four-post and intend to wire it in the described fashion, then it's the correct part.
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Various wiring diagrams here.

http://www.jeepsurreygala.com/?page_id=1377

I note that even even 12v DJ3A's use a 12v 3 post solenoid. As I mentioned in my first post on this thread though a 12v four post solenoid WILL work if only the small terminal nearest to the passenger side fender is used.

I sadly also want to say that that entire site which I linked to and have used so many times during my restoration and even today answering questions asked was put together and maintained by our very good friend the late Bruce Agan whom I know in my heart is resting in peace.

Thinking about him makes me sad so I'll try to say and end this post with something positive.

Off topic but I dare to say it here anyway. Or maybe better show this, even at risk of getting in trouble with the moderators.

Here is the future owner of my very dedicated underway 1956 DJ3A restoration.



And here is me and the future owner of hopefully a real CJ2A that I hope to buy and restore someday.



That's only a part of the reason that I'm trying to learn everything I can about them NOW.

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Moderators, please feel free to edit that out of this post.   It's off topic and won't hurt my feelings at all and I will try to be more careful in the future.






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It would take a better wiring expert than me to completely answer your question.   I only know how my DJ was wired to run on 12v and it worked fine that way. Both cranking and charging.

I'm definitely not sure of the particulars of the entire function of a four post solenoid or how the bypassing (which I have heard ) of actually works and I don't dare want to mislead you there.

The last thing I think I KNOW is when I wired mine back up for 6 volt I changed back to a 3 post 6v solenoid and did away with the resistor which I discovered was required for only for a 6v coil when converted to 12 volt.    I 'think' a 6v coil actually puts out about 9 volts but don't hold me to that either. I'm far from a wiring expert. That's why I spent so much time making that drawing. My eyes aren't that great and I made my own wiring harness.



But I am pretty sure during my research that a internally resisted 12v coil doesn't require a external ballast resistor at all ....just don't leave the key on when the jeep is not running. This would hold true for either 6 or 12v because then you're in danger of burning up the points.

Later when I get home I'll look up a actual 12v wiring diagram for a DJ3A and we'll see what' kind of solenoid it requires. 3 post or four post.

Charles



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Thank you Charles!

So a 4-post solenoid is the wrong solenoid?

I was under the impression that with a 4 post solenoid you can send that 4th post - (the I post) - can be sent directly to the (-) on the coil to send full power to the coil during initial start at key turn (bypassing the ballast resistor momentarily).

After that once the key springs back to run position the "I" post looses power (along with the starter pole) and then the power from the Run position on the key takes over and runs through the ballast resistor at a reduced voltage.

Maybe this thinking is why I'm having issues.
As always: thank you.
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I don't know if this will help you or not but here's a wiring diagram I drew up for a DJ3A. At least some of the circuits should be similar.



IF I understand correctly with a internally resisted coil you shouldn't need a ballast resistor.

My motor was originally piece together wired for 12v, now converted back to 6. Originally had a 6v coil W/ ballast resistor on the firewall to work for 12V. Originally had a 4 post (wrong) solenoid. On the two smaller posts at the top of the solenoid only the small post nearest the passenger side fender was used. The other post had no wire hooked to it at all and it would crank and run.



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cpt logger/les/forum,

I replaced the coil.

I noticed my Ohms on the existing ballast resistor to be at 1.7

I know this is a common ballast resistance but can't find anywhere if that is a good ballast resistance for the Cj2a

Also even with a new coil - when I run my spark plug tester it lights up very very dim (tester between coil and distributor).

The new coil says "use external resistor or resisted wire" - so I'm pretty sure I should be OK using the ballast resistor.



I'm trying to nail it down but having real trouble.

Also need to check and make sure this distributor is any good.

It's probably time I move my conversation to a different thread as I
Getting off topic here.

Edited by CJTWOA - 24 June 2016 at 4:25am
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Thank you guys - I'm still working at this - all this and I'm pretty sure my coil is bad - most likely going to get one with an internal ballast resistor instead.
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Are the points opening? Is there a short in the distributor that grounds the points out all the time? If the points are working correctly, & there is no short in the distributor, then the coil is most likely bad.
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Like this:

Everything except the starting circuit has been omitted due to extreme laziness



I don't remember which terminal it is on a 4 post solenoid, or you could use a three poster.



Edited by LesBerg - 22 June 2016 at 5:19am
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