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Here is how I did mine.  My had channels were made in 8ft lengths and I cut to fit.  The curved channel for the tunnel I took off of my parts jeep.  You may have to cut and fit like I did.

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I would check with walcks, I believe they should just overlap.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote njtool Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr. 2014 at 10:39pm
Its looking like the center channel has to be cut and butt welded to the piece under the hump.


And it looks like I've hit a wall. I didn't pick up sheet metal on friday, and the gusset needs a new shoe.




For some reason, the drivers side has more rot damage than the passenger side, even the hat channel under the fender is rotted only on the drivers side. Go figure.

I will have to wait until monday when I can pick up a sheet of 18 gauge To repair and re-attach the gusset.

But on another note, getting the acm number was real easy...
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First problem fixed...




Floor are next...
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Classic enterprises makes some nice repair panels.  http://www.classicent.com/jeep.php#4164
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Rick,
I bought my floor panels from Walcks. They are wider than just the floor, so I had some cutting and bending to do. This is where im at right now.







The extra width is nice because I need metal on the side of the trans hump. I have some refining to do, but im getting there.
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Matthew -- You can move a lot of metal with a small sledge hammer and a 25# bag of lead shot. Or you can create a hammer form from wood and clamp your piece in place and work it into almost any shape you want. It goes a lot faster than you would think.
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Its finally staring to look like a floor. I still have to remember to raise the hump so it doesnt rub.





Im finding that a short piece of 3/4 black pipe is great for bracing and using as a radius for bending.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lowenuf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr. 2014 at 8:44pm
Originally posted by russnj russnj wrote:

I would check with walcks, I believe they should just overlap.
 
 
 
They do overlap, if you look closely at my pics, you will see the overlap in the center area of the hump portion, replicated using #10910 as the template...factory channels consisted of a left side, and a right side, the overlapping being in the middle, hump area. We used an original center section butt welded to new channel material, then finished out with a blind seam on each side of the hump...
 
 
 
 
and the photo posted a few above shows the overlap as well.......
 
 


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Thanks Lowenuf,
I bought the channels and the center piece from Walcks. The hump piece was one piece. I had to cut a piece off of each of the straight channels.

Its coming along. I cant wait to actually start welding the parts together. Once the transmission hump pieces are made, I can start making thungs permanent. WooHoo
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Ok, whats the deal with the hole in the floors? Its right above the hat channel near the side step on both sides. The only thing that hole will do is allow dirt and water into the hat channel, then the hat channel will rust and rot.

Should I weld the hole shut? Whats its purpose? Also, should I drill a few small holes in the bottom of the hat channels so if water gets in there it can get out?



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I think that there is a bolt that is meant to go through the cowl brace, floor and hat channel in that location to help support the outside "step"....does the hat channel have a hole in it there?
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There is no hole in the hat channel. I remember reading somewhere that the hole is for an unknown purpose. The outside step was seemless with the panel on the originals. I dont see a way that it would support anything or add anything besides headaches.

Does anyone know what its for? Would I be better off if I closed the hole?
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They eliminated the hole/bolt later on...discovered that it was not needed...I think that you can do what ever you want with it....

I did not drill it out...



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Right now im leaning towards welding it shut, unless someone can tell me a reason to keep it open.

Im also considering drilling a few drain holes in the hat channels to let any possible trapped water out.
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what that hole does it accept a bolt/washer/nut through the floor and hat channel, giving support to the hat channel as it extends out under the step, so that when you would step onto the step, it would not give way to falling.....
 
 
underside of the passenger side:
 
 
 
 
 
underside showing both sides:
 


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Ah ha, that makes sense. I was thinking it was to keep the floor bolted down, but the welds from the hat channel to the floor would do that.

I was thinking about putting a piece of metal in the hat channel under the step and extend it under the floor a foot or so, that way it would really support the step, since im not putting wood in there. I was thinking about a chunk of metal, or welding 18 gauge "fins" to add rigidity. My youngest son already asked if it was a step for getting in the jeep and im sure other people will assume the same thing. An ounce of prevention...
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You know, I find that it does not work that well for getting in or out of the jeep, but once you are in, it's a great place so rest your outboard foot!
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