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smfulle
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You all haave got me thinking now. I drove a vw beetle for years that was yellow with one green fender. It sort became my trademark for a while. Not sure that is a great trademark, but.....
There will be more patches in the coming years as my tolerance for bottomless tool boxes and ventilated floorboards decreases and my current nonexistent skills and confidence in welding and body work increase. Maybe I'll just pick a color like flat black that would not stick out terribly, especially with some trail dirt on it, and go with that. As you say, it might be better than a bad fake patina. Hmmmm.... |
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rocnroll
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Welding skills can be learned and honed fairly quickly.....and the more you do the better it gets.....
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48willys
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A friend once asked me, as he helped me load my first jeep. "You know how to weld?.... You're about to learn!" How very right he was.
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mikec4193
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Hey Stan
I would set all the parts outside...maybe throw some vinegar on them to speed things up...in my neck the stuff will rust in a couple of days when left outside with all the moisture in the air...
Good luck with the patina fix...
MikeC
P.S. I thought I was the only VW bug on here...
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I am the squirrel....
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smfulle
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Funny thing about that beetle. When we first got married my wife had a yellow 67. We sold that one when i was stationed overseas. A few years later when we decided we needed a 2nd car, my wife suggested another beetle. We looked around and found anothet yellow one, a 72 this time, yellow with a green fender. My wife drove it once, said, "that's not as fun as I remember." So the beetle was my ride for the next 10 years or so. I think my wife drove it twice in all that time. |
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Daniel_Buck
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I'd practice on some sheet metal for sure.
I've done some aging on some metal furniture of mine. Getting rust is no problem at all, haha! I would start by painting the sheet metal, with NO primer (use a paint that requires primer) Hopefully it will chip off easier that way. And I wouldn't clean the metal off either. Leave any oils or grit on there. The part I'm un sure of, is how to chip the paint. A heat gun might work, along with some judicious work with a paint scraper. And then to kinda smooth it out in areas, I'd sand it a good bit. Maybe even hit it with a hammer, shovel, or wahtever to get some scratches and dings. Then to get the rust, mix up some vinegar, salt, and mustard, and smear it on there. That will promote rust. (the mustard is really just to turn it into a paste, so that it sticks instead of being runny)
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Tom in RI
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Spray a light base coat of clean metal primer.
Spray a covering coat of robins egg blue mixed from rustoleum blue + white. Spray a light coat of rustoleum damp proof red primer over the blue. Wet sand the primer so your blue just starts to show. Use a windex bottle to spritz blotchy lumpy areas of brown rustoleum. Not covering. Just some jumpy splotches And some more blotchy areas of black. Let dry. Lightly coat with the rustoleum red primer. Just a light coat. Wet sand with 400 or 600 until the tops of the brown blotches appear and start looking like bumps of rust. Repeat with whatever colors you have handy. The spray bottle gives you the texture, the base coat of robins egg blue is under there and will appear as you lightly wet sand. Cover it all with flat clear if the sanding doesn't give you a flat enough finish. Cover the underside with a heavy coat of rustoleum red - let rocks and mud cover it. |
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jpet
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Hi Tom, Have you done this? ... If so, do you have any pics? Thanks!
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Tom in RI
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yes, I have used these ideas on a number of small projects but don't have any pictures. I didn't invent the techniques - Got them from a 2008 article in Street Rodder magazine where they put "patina" on this fiberglass hot rod.
The magazine stuff is probably copy protected so best not to post but PM me if interested in it. Street Rodder is a pretty good mag for metalworking and painting tech info. I pick it up at the airport a couple of times a year.. |
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jpet
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Yes, I have read about it too (using a squirt bottle to squirt clumps of red primer) but I have not seen any good closeup pics.
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