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eestes1
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Hello, everyone
Can I drain and fill the tc AND tranny through the tc drain and fill plugs? I can access the fill plug now that I have removed the rusted out passenger floor. I am trying to remove the transmission floor plate but have one screw (probably not what is supposed to be there) still stuck and nearly stripped. If I can get it out and remove the cover, will that give me access to the tranny drain and fill plugs? And if I have to drill it out will metal shavings get into the transmissions? I have two gallons of GL-1 and I'd like to get both cases properly lubed. Thanks for any help. |
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Flatfender Ben
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I found the best way to fill the t- case and tranny is with the plunger style pump that screws on top of the gear lube bottle. It looks like a big soap pump. They sell them at napa $6-$8 work great. You can get to the fill drain plugs on the side of the tranny from under the jeep. Good luck.
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Flatfender Ben
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Oh ya and they are separate compartments so each one needs drained and filled.
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eestes1
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Thanks, Ben
So, I can do both from the transfer case? |
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eestes1
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Oops! I went too fast with my question. I will still need to see how/where the tranny plugs are.? I read somewhere that the two are connected and can be drained/filled from one place, but somewhere else said what what you said. I'll keep looking.
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gearwrencher
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T-Case and transmission are different. Like Ben said go to Napa and buy their bump, Its great! don't buy the cheap Auto zone plastic junk.
Yes, you will haft to get on the floor to do it . At 61 I still roll around under my Jeeps on a regular basis in the dirt, Some one hast to do it.
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eestes1
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Well, I'm 67 and I don't have a floor but I do have a rug I lay down under the Jeep ! My main problem is I can't find the tranny drain and fill plugs! Maybe they are covered in all the crud ! Thanks for the reply.
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gearwrencher
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Did you take off the Skid plate, helps allot .That fill plug is on the drivers side about half way up.
Fairly large ,1/2" Pipe plug ,again on Transmission. I know all about how high that crud can build up.
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eestes1
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Oh. Driver's side. From the pictures in the parts manual I thought it was on the passenger side. Thanks for your perspective- pun intended!
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Flatfender Ben
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Ya the tranny plugs are on the driver side and are hard to reach with the skid plate on. the t-case fill plug is on the pass side when you fill it depending what gear the t case is in there maybe a gear in line with the hole if it is move the shifter to the other position.
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blademaker
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Here's a couple pics hope they help. As previous...tranny plugs are on drivers side and transfer case on passenger side and bottom, a lot easier when skid plate is removed. And also I was told to fill transfer case first then tranny when empty..????
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BENSH
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What skid plate, you mean it's supposed to have some kind of a skid plate somewhere?
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yeah, I hear you. Mine doesn't have any skid plates, not even on the oil pan...
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eestes1
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Thanks for the pics- they help.
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Rick Estes
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JeepFever
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We have to drain both separately, and fill both . . . the first time. After they are both full, we can "maintain" using only the transfer case fill hole. During normal operation, oil is "pumped" from the t-case up to the tranny. It drains internally back to the t-case, thru a hole between the two cases. This internal hole at similar level to the tranny fill hole. (so the tranny stays full). It takes about 3 pints to fill tranny, and 3.5 pints for t-case, if I remember correctly. So you should have plenty. 1 gallon will fill both, and replace leaks for a few years.
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eestes1
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Thanks, Ron and all. Hopefully, I will get back to it in a day or two.
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The Fez
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With all the inspirational posts regarding changing the tranny/transfer case oil, I decided to tackle draining both today. The skid plate came off quite easily, just needed to remove a heck of a lot of clay/oil crud with a screwdriver and scraper in order to find the 9/16" nuts. They actually came off quite alright which wasn't too much of a surprised considering their mummified state in the crud. The drain plug for the transfer case is actually removable with the skid plate in place but the tranny would have been near impossible. It was very difficult to find with all the crud, not the ideal scenario I imagined from blademaker's photo, although it was a good reference. There is no way that 6.5 pints drained out so I'm glad that I took the task on. Here is a shot of the transfer case drain plug hole after draining: You can barely see the tranny drain hole, but it's just above the forward part of the tranny cross-member (just follow both oil sludge trails): This is a sample of the oil that I put onto some paper. After a rubbed it a bit, water beads appear on the paper. I'm going to pull the shifter tower cover to take a look - might as well since I can fill the tranny from the top that way, as well. |
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I was not going to mention, but since you brought it up . . that is my method for drain-and-replace (had to do it a lot in the mud-running days ) - remove both drain plugs - after all the oil drains out, replace the drain plugs - remove the shifter tower and pour in approx 6.5 pints (3.25 quarts) of oil - let it set awhile for the oil to flow from tranny to t-case - remove the t-case fill plug - if oil starts flowing out, -> replace, . . . if no oil flowing out -> add some more in the top of tranny until it does, then replace the t-case fill plug - replace shifter tower cover. No oil pumps required, not messy at all. Fez - > it looks like yours was due a drain and fill. That 2nd pic looks like tar draining out
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