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athawk11 
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 Topic: NOS Engine BlockPosted: 28 Aug. 2014 at 4:52pm |
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Hello Folks,
I'm looking for a consensus and any other input you might like to share... A dollar value on an NOS L-134 engine-- block only...in a crate. The pictures look legit. I don't have the casting or serial numbers yet. Tim
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chasendeer
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Posted: 28 Aug. 2014 at 6:09pm |
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$1000 if it is machined ready to be cleaned and assembled.
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w114kav
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Posted: 28 Aug. 2014 at 6:42pm |
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I spent $600 getting my old block back up to snuff. I would think that it being NOS would put another $100 or $200 on top of that. Say $750?
$1000 seems high - but I am not from California  To me an original block is more valuable than a NOS one. Although, some people do not have the luxury of having their original block. |
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rocketeer
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Posted: 28 Aug. 2014 at 10:12pm |
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Bare block or short block? Bare block maybe $300-$500, short block upwards of $1000.
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Posted: 29 Aug. 2014 at 12:05am |
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I'm with rocketeer, I think it's about $400. As I said on the 3A site I would prefer a good used block that has been seasoned in use. That NOS block may not be a NOS block, it may be faked to get more money.
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rocketeer
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Posted: 29 Aug. 2014 at 1:05am |
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If it is NOS it better have std bores for starters. Any deviation is a red flag.
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Posted: 29 Aug. 2014 at 2:28am |
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Wonder if has Brg caps?
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Posted: 31 Aug. 2014 at 2:11pm |
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Gentlemen,
Thank you for the input. These blocks are bare. Through PMs, I've had some additional help on this from a 2A member. The casting number is: 908756. The crates are labeled: TCP ( Transportation Parts Corporation ) They are coated with a dull reddish color. These were part of the inventory from a local Denver business called Mile High Jeep Rebuilders and were purchased by them in the late '70s. When the business closed, most of the inventory was sold. The owner kept a few items for himself. Tim |
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rocketeer
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Posted: 31 Aug. 2014 at 2:17pm |
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Assuming the main bearing caps are there the value lies in a std cyl bore and, if they are also installed, NOS cam bearings, other than that it's just another block, IMO.
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Posted: 31 Aug. 2014 at 2:45pm |
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That's kinda what I was thinking too.......just another (expensive) block unless you just want to leave it in the crate as a novelty (then it becomes REALLY expensive block)
 If you put alot of worth in crates I've got one I'd sell too.....it's a nice wooden crate my Dana 44 came in. Would make a good man cave coffee table, with all the military markings ( Barstow, if I remember correctly)  |
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athawk11
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Posted: 31 Aug. 2014 at 4:06pm |
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It may be different in other parts of the country, but here in Colorado, L-134 blocks, in any condition, are fairly rare. At least blocks that are for sale.
We have a lot of hoarders out here. And they rarely part with the good stuff.I scan Craiglist on a regular basis. In 2 years, only one old 3A engine has come up for sale. It is seized, but I bought it anyway. Tim |
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Posted: 31 Aug. 2014 at 4:16pm |
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Are you needing a particular year block or just a 'builder'?
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Posted: 01 Sep. 2014 at 3:19am |
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They look legit to me. Clean crack free blocks are getting very hard to find. Machine shop service is not cheap either, no offence to anyone, but if you would rather spend your hard earned dollars cooking, sleeving, fitting cam bearings, cutting the deck, in an old, overheated, warped and abused block, go for it!. I would spend $800 on a NOS block.
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rocketeer
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Posted: 01 Sep. 2014 at 3:43am |
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I think a lot depends on just how bare they are. Main bearing caps, cam bearings and valve guides would be a concern for me. If the bearing caps are missing in a line bored block, finding a workable matching set of caps is something I only ever tackled once and will never do again. Still, $800 for a bare block seems high, no offense, but each person has to set their own standards based on their own circumstances so who am I to judge.
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Posted: 01 Sep. 2014 at 4:05am |
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I guess since I know some of those hoarders, I should ask what block you are actually looking for...
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Lee MN
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Posted: 01 Sep. 2014 at 4:46am |
Years back I purchased 2 F head blocks just like these in crates on a county surplus auction. W/MBcaps, valve guides and cam bearing and painted the primer red color. If these are Like L head blocks $800 would be a fair price. If not Rocketeer, you would be correct! Lee
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athawk11
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Posted: 01 Sep. 2014 at 1:46pm |
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Rocketeer--I will see if the blocks have the caps. I hope they do. I wouldn't have even thought that they wouldn't. I can see how hard it might be to find a workable set.
Rocknroll, Joe Friday --I'm not looking for anything in particular. I don't have an immediate need. I just want to have a few back up engines or blocks. Either to tinker with, or to use, if and when needed. And thanks to Joe Friday for some additional help and information on this.
It would be preferable if these blocks were NOS 2A, 3A, M38, but at this point, it doesn't really matter that much to me. I don't have the luxury of being overly picky. I think I agree with Lee here. An NOS block would seem to be a good choice. We all know folks that have a need for a replacement block and have had a hard time finding one that isn't cracked...or bored to .060 over, or more. We don't have many reputable machine shops in my market, so this kind of work is very expensive. I appreciate all the input. Tim |
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Posted: 01 Sep. 2014 at 2:19pm |
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Adding to the picture, a machine shop just charged me 500.00 to sleeve a .060 over block. That's not far from 800.00. I never thought about no valve guides though. Interesting deal, and it gives you a very good reason to begin looking for your next project!
Makes total sense to me! John
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