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dodjh 
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 Topic: Hand cranking to set points...Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 6:19pm |
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When I use a socket set up to turn crankshaft by hand, the distributor shaft does not spin,
is that normal and if so how do you spin distributor shaft slowly to set point gap? |
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smfulle
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 6:36pm |
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Not normal!! Distributor is mechanically tied to cam shaft which is mechanically tied to the crankshaft. If crank is moving, everything should be moving. Are you going counter clockwise on the crank and possible backing out the bolt?
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WillyBill
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 6:40pm |
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Is there an oil pump installed on your engine?
Crankshaft drives camshaft which drives oil pump. End of distributor fits into end of oil pump. Oil pump turns distributor. Edited by WillyBill - 19 Oct. 2016 at 6:54pm |
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binthere
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 7:02pm |
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when the motor is running, it is about 600 to 700 RPM!! Turning the crank by hand doesn't quite hit that mark!! Keep turning it!
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smfulle
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 7:23pm |
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The crank does have to go around twice to turn the distributor around once, so maybe you do need to turn the crank a little more.
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dodjh
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 7:30pm |
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smfulle, I tried CW and CCW, same result.
WillyBill, the motor has about 1000 miles since it was rebuilt...I feel like he put an oil pump in...? binthere, so if I keep turning CW it will eventually turn the distributor shaft? |
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 7:43pm |
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OK I will try that, CW direction right?
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 8:09pm |
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If you use the starter to crank it, do you get oil pressure?
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 8:32pm |
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dodjh,
Did you recently pull the distributor? If so, are you certain that you re-seated it all the way back into the oil pump slot? Hawk
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 8:33pm |
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Unkamonkey, my oil pressure gauge isn't working right now...the needle in the gauge has separated from the main housing. When working, it showed good pressure.
smuffle, just wasn't turning the crank enough rotations...it moves the Dist. shaft fine. |
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 8:37pm |
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athawk11, just missed you post...no the distributor hasn't been pulled since the overhaul about a year ago. I was thinking about an all electronic distributor but still not decided.
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 8:42pm |
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Great news, I was working through the system to be sure your timing gears and oil pump gears were still good.
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 9:06pm |
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I am relieved that it does turn by hand and thank you for your help,
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 10:33pm |
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Just be sure not to leave your ratchet on the nut when you start it up after setting the points.
And don't ask me how I know this. |
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Posted: 19 Oct. 2016 at 11:17pm |
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If you turn the crank clockwise, the rotor turns counterclockwise. And yeah, just keep turning!
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dodjh
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Posted: 20 Oct. 2016 at 12:50am |
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63owner, I had an 8" extension on the socket and I knew to take it off before cranking BUT somewhere in the process I didn't remove it and when I realized it, TOO LATE.
Don't know how but when I looked, the ratchet and socket were intact just a little out from the crankshaft nut. binthere, you were right...it just took more turning to move the Dist. shaft. |
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Posted: 20 Oct. 2016 at 1:29am |
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Heh, heh, heh. Years ago I found out you can start an old VW motor by using a spark plug socket and ratchet wrench on the generator nut. Tools can fly if it starts.
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dodjh
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Posted: 20 Oct. 2016 at 2:21am |
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That sounds Dangerous!
I tried to find an engine hand crank for the Willy's jeep couple of years back but no success. That should work well for turning the motor over slowly and seems like if you didn't take it off you would trip over it. |
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