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    Posted: 21 Oct. 2014 at 7:59pm
I'll get some pics up of "Apple Brown Betty" shortly.
First though, I need to sort out a bit of a mystery involving the serial number.
 
I bought the Jeep from a guy that said it was a 48 but listed the serial number as 89450.
That would put it in 47 territory.
I was shooting some pics of the tags and took a closer look at the numbers and it looks like it was faintly stamped 189450.
Now that would be more like it.
The wife says it looks like a scratch instead of a "1" to her and on other tags the 1 has a definite base and flag on it.
I'll throw it open to debate on here.
 
 
And here's a closeup.
 
 
To make it more interesting, the body tag says 176089 which according to the data information page here on the CJ2A site puts it in 1948. That lends some credence to the serial number being 189450.
 
Unfortunately there's no frame tag to compare.
Is there some other place on the vehicle, or some characteristic that would identify it as either a 47 or 48?
 
Thanks all,
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Looks like it could be a lightly stamped "1". Look at the backside and see if it shows there.
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If it is a '48, no. 189450, it would not have had a frame tag. Nor an ACM no., but maybe a tailgate number. BW
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Even on my phone, I could see a faint "flag" on the leading one.
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After serious consideration and some technical expertise (it came up "tails") I've concluded that we're looking at a 48 and that indeed is a poorly stamped "1" on the tag.
Thanks much to everyone that commented and helped confirm it.
 
With a bit of luck and nice weather I'll start ripping into her next week and get some pics posted.
 
Here's what she looked like when I rolled her off the trailer.
 
 
 
Rolls pretty freely for something that's been in a shed for the last several years.
More to follow
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If it's like mine, the brakes were no longer doing anything after 30 years, which led to good rolling, even with low tire pressure!
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Originally posted by AbeCJ2A AbeCJ2A wrote:

If it's like mine, the brakes were no longer doing anything after 30 years, which led to good rolling, even with low tire pressure!
 
The brakes are just like yours.
Seems like every other old car I've let sit more than a few months froze into immobility LOL
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Hi Neil, My 48 is #192834 and the 1 was stamped just like yours. You could barely see it. I would show you a picture of it if I hadn't decided to remove the paint the PO sprayed over it to get a better look at the 1. Dropped the plate in some paint thinner and when I came back to check on it the paint was gone - and so was the plate!! Luckily I found the original title to double check the number. Good Luck
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Originally posted by oldracer oldracer wrote:

Hi Neil, My 48 is #192834 and the 1 was stamped just like yours. You could barely see it. I would show you a picture of it if I hadn't decided to remove the paint the PO sprayed over it to get a better look at the 1. Dropped the plate in some paint thinner and when I came back to check on it the paint was gone - and so was the plate!! Luckily I found the original title to double check the number. Good Luck
 
 
Thanks for that confirmation.
Sorry to hear about the molten data plate!
My body tag looks like someone swiped across it with a welding rod and it goes right through the third digit, so I don't know if it's a "6" or an "8".
 
Solving this stuff is part of what makes a restoration entertaining!
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