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    Posted: 09 Mar. 2011 at 2:43am
As a Jr. High librarian by trade, I always tell the kids in the library that there are no stupid questions. Of course, they then set about to prove me wrong, but that's for a different thread.
 
Is there a glossary of jeep terms out there somewhere for those of us that just recently caught this jeep disease? I have never before owned a jeep, or even a four wheel drive of any sort.
 
 I have most recently been working on an old Chevy pickup, so I know SBC, AD (Advanced Design) TF (Task Force), Cameo, etc. Before that it was a VW Beetle, so some of this jeep stuff is very foreign to me.
 
What's the difference between a CJ, TJ, YJ, DJ etc? How about a postal jeep, a surrey, etc. And how to they correlate to the models listed in the Mechanic's Manual (My copy is a 1948) such as Models 48, 39, 4-40, 4-41, 463-2wd, 463-4wd, 663?
 
Why is Boyd's jeep named Lefty? What makes a Jeep a "lefty?"
 
I've been holding off asking these types of questions because I was hoping I could pick most of it up from context while reading the forum and therby not look like such a jeep jeep, but so far I haven't been able to.
 
I'm sure I'll come up with more rookie jeep questions as I continue to make my daily readings of this forum and gather pieces of old rusty metal that I hope someday when bolted together resembles a CJ2A.
 
Stan
 
 


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Left = spare tire was mounted on the left side of the jeep from the factory
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Hi Stan
 
One question from the horses mouth answered for you. In April -May of 1948 Willys decided to mount the spare tire on the Left side of the CJ-2A rather than the right side as all the other ones are. They only did that for a short time span and produced about 10,000 of them that way. Hence the name Lefty. There is a definate serial number range these were produced through. Then they reconsidered and went back to the right mounted spare. Searching "lefty" will reveal some reasons for this experiment.
 
My interest stays with the 2As so though my manual is the 1948 edition also all those other models are irrelevant to me. My attention is drawn to the chapters and references to the 2a ignoring the other models listed. My brain only has so much room left. Others here are will be able to tell you all about the YJ, TJ, and all the other numbers you are curious about. Let your curiosity reign there's alot of knowledgeable folks here.
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This will help a little with older jeep models.
https://www.beachwoodcanvas.com/yourvehicle.cfm

and when you have more time, this is a pretty good list from start to now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep

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Originally posted by smfulle smfulle wrote:


Is there a glossary of jeep terms out there somewhere for those of us that just recently caught this jeep disease? I have never before owned a jeep, or even a four wheel drive of any sort.
 

Stan, 

Pickup a couple books... lots of good literature out there. One of my favorites and sorta my go to book for info is this one: http://www.amazon.com/Jeep-Illustrated-Buyers-Guide-Allen/dp/0760302995
Current: '48 CJ2A #188461, '97 Jeep TJ, 2010 JK Unlimited (wife's), and a '97 Jeep Cherokee
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The story of Jeep is a good one 

MB = Wartime Produced by willys overland
GPW = Wartime Produced by Ford
CJ2A = Postwar Civilian split windshield
CJ3A = Postwar Civilian one piece windshield
M38 = Military 3A so to speak
CJ3B = Civilian High-Hood Flat fender. First to have the F-Head motor
CJ5 = Civilian Round hood and fender 
CJ6 = Long Wheelbase CJ5 - were mostly export
M38A1 = Military CJ5
CJ7 = First U-shaped door opening universal Jeep
CJ8 = AKA the Scrambler. Long wheelbase CJ7/truck
YJ = 1988-1995 First square headlight universal jeep
TJ = 1997-2006 First Coil Sprung universal jeep
LJ = Long Wheelbase TJ
JK = 2007-Current
SJ/FSJ = full size jeep line 1963-1988 - wagoneer, cherokee, grand wagoneer, gladiator, Hancho-J truck, M715
ZJ = modern day grand cherokee to 98
XJ = 1984-2001 Cherokee
WJ = Grand cherokee 99-04
KJ = Jeep Liberty



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Welcome... it's great history and you'll pick up things quickly I'm sure!
Collecting any/all Kaiser/Frazer/JEEP literature/handouts/toys etc.
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ovrlnd, nice over view. Thumbs Up
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DJ3A= Dispatcher jeep
 
DJ5= Postal jeep
 
                           Both 2WD
 
CJ10= mostly used as airport tugs
              (not sure but may have come in 2 and 4wd)
 
 
 
 
 
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The model most left out of the family tree-1950 CJV-35 or v-35/u.Predates m-38.Made for united states marine corps.First factory supplied underwater fording jeep.1000 models produced.Wink
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Don't feel bad about not knowing some of the terms. It takes us all a while to pick them up. And don't feel bad about asking, most people are so proud they finally figured it out themselves that they will be happy to enlighten you:) How is your build coming by the way?
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I am an extreme Jeep rookie so those intials are really helpful. I have heard about that Patrick Foster book before. I am gonna have to pick it up really soon. Are there any really good technical books we Jeep Rookies need to know about???....Maybe we new guys can be called RJP for Rookie Jeep Person...just a thought.
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RJP........ cool.
 
Maybe we need to get the webmaster to put our "rank" under our screen name that updates our
status after a certain number of posts like they do over on the "G". Something catchy intead of just "member".
Something like 1-100...... Rookie Jeeper
then 101-200................. Enough knowledge to be dangerous
then 201-300................. Know-it-all
etc...etc...etc.
 
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"Enough knowledge to be dangerous."
Shoot, Mike. That's what it says on my business card and, often times, I feel that might be an overstatement.... LOL 
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Don't forget the FC Model (Forward Control).  Did the older trucks and wagons have similar identifiers?
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Originally posted by kilroy kilroy wrote:

"Enough knowledge to be dangerous."
Shoot, Mike. That's what it says on my business card and, often times, I feel that might be an overstatement.... LOL 
 
Me too!
LOL
 
(about myself!)
 
 
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that's what I get for going from memory, leaving out the FC's and other important models. sorry guysLOL
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Don't forget the Jeep "Fleetvans" either (FJ3, FJ3A, FJ6, etc) see  http://www.offroaders.com/tech/jeep/Jeep-FJ.htm.  Somebody in my town has a hotrodded FJ3 done up as a postal delivery van.
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