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    Posted: 18 July 2014 at 12:29am
When did the 16"x4.5" solid disk wheels get used on vec 2a's? Up to what serial number?
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Bill Oakes (oakes) is the acknowledged expert on wheels here.  He does not know when the various wheel types were used on the 2A.  In the Parts Project, there is a thread where he commented as much: Wheel types

If you do an advanced search on "solid wheels" and specify "oakes', you can see the other posts that he made on the topic.
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..... but the short answer would be that there is no definitive answer. There have been '45 found with and without solid wheels. There have been '46s found with and without solid wheels. I don't think any have been found past '46 though.

I don't know for a fact but from what I have learned on this forum, there is not documentation on the use of solid wheels. All we have to go by are the jeeps we own.
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G 503 had a discussion about the difference between military and civilian solid wheels. They are all rare birds to find. Ron Fitzpatrick Jeep Parts sells repops of them. Slatt Grille Jeeps had them. I suppose the MA Willys had them too. I've never seen them in the flesh. What I usually see are Ford pickup 15 inch wheels and the original 16's are thrown away because the previous owners would not spend extra dollars for the 16 inch tires. They threw out 400.00 per wheels!Confused John
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Originally posted by Oilleaker1 Oilleaker1 wrote:

G 503 had a discussion about the difference between military and civilian solid wheels. They are all rare birds to find. ……
For clarity, I was talking about the civi solid wheels (4-1/2" wide); not the military solids (4" wide).  I know of no example where CJs came from the factory with 4" wide solids but I could be wrong.
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I agree about the only 4" came on slats. That is how I came about these wheels. Now I need to make the call on keeping them or not. They seem to be harder to find than the 4" slat wheels.
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Originally posted by chasendeer chasendeer wrote:

.... They seem to be harder to find than the 4" slat wheels.
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I would not agree with that.  The 4" slat wheels are very hard to find.  Here on the forum, I have always heard that 4-1/2" solid civi wheels are hard to find and that the 90-90s are harder to find than the 90-45s but I bet if you did a survey you would find that several members here have them and several have came upon them by accident.  I have had two sets in my 6+ years into the hobby.  My current set of 5 are 90-90. and I came upon 4 of them by coincidence.

I don't think the same can be said for the 4" slat wheels.  do a survey on them.  I have come across 1 and it had the '41 stamp date.

Lowenuf has the only set of 90-45 solids I have seen.


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When I acquired my 1945 CJ-2A , it had three slotted and two solid rims, all of different colors, so I can't be for sure which was on it originally. The back of the two solids were Autumn Yellow though. All original, unrestored solids now though!
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Originally posted by jpet jpet wrote:

Originally posted by chasendeer chasendeer wrote:

.... They seem to be harder to find than the 4" slat wheels.
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I would not agree with that.  The 4" slat wheels are very hard to find.  Here on the forum, I have always heard that 4-1/2" solid civi wheels are hard to find and that the 90-90s are harder to find than the 90-45s but I bet if you did a survey you would find that several members here have them and several have came upon them by accident.  I have had two sets in my 6+ years into the hobby.  My current set of 5 are 90-90. and I came upon 4 of them by coincidence.

I don't think the same can be said for the 4" slat wheels.  do a survey on them.  I have come across 1 and it had the '41 stamp date.






X2, IMHO 4 1/2" are the more common. As jpet said you come across them by accident. Also depends on the Jeep circle one follows if your into prototypes/slats it will increase your chances of finding 4". I once purchased a 3A that came with six 4" solid wheels in very nice shape , how did they get there?, my guess would be a surplus dealer back in the day had a truckload of them and wholesaled them to Jeep dealers or JC Whitney. Hard to know but I wish I could find more

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What do you mean 90-90 or 90-45? My 46 has 3 solid disc and 2 that are slotted. I would like to find 2 more solid to make them all the same. I would think the solid disc are original since I am only the third owner of this jeep and I knew the other 2.
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1946 CJ-2A #20315 4 solid disks, spare is a slotted Motor wheel. Family bought from first owner in 1952.
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Originally posted by buzzshipman buzzshipman wrote:

What do you mean 90-90 or 90-45?.....




This is a 90-45. One side is 90 degrees and the other has a 45 degree bevel as opposed to a 90-90 which is square on both sides
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Mine are both 90-90
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OK went out and looked at mine and they are 90-45
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Originally posted by jpet jpet wrote:

Originally posted by Oilleaker1 Oilleaker1 wrote:

G 503 had a discussion about the difference between military and civilian solid wheels. They are all rare birds to find. ……
For clarity, I was talking about the civi solid wheels (4-1/2" wide); not the military solids (4" wide).  I know of no example where CJs came from the factory with 4" wide solids but I could be wrong.


Picky, picky, picky indeed, but the first 20 CJ-2 Agrijeeps with the brass "JEEP" name plates all came from the factory with the Kelsey-Hayes 4" solid disc wheels A-465.   The next 20 preproduction model CJ-2 jeeps with "JEEP" stamped into the hood sides used either the Kelsey-Hayes 4" solid disc wheel  # 24562 or the Motor Wheel Corp. 4" solid disc wheel #32740 which was an optional wheel under W.O. # A-465.   Wink   The CJ-2A was the first civilian jeep to use the 16 x 4-1/2" solid disc wheel  W.O. # 640800. 
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My vec came to me from the original family with 3 slotted and 1 solid wheel. One of the slotted wheels was wrong color and obviously wasn't original but the remaining wheels give me no reason to suspect that they aren't original. I have never seen one but have heard of photos of early 2a's on showroom floors with mismatched solid and slotted wheels.
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