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    Posted: 11 May 2008 at 11:16pm
Ok my 46 cj2a is near startup point but what belt do i need  the number please!
 
also my tranny and transfer case  how much fluid goes in?
 
I filled the tranny before i put the tub on  its full   (going to be hard to open the fill plug on it!) but the t-case is empty  I just put over 1 liter in and its still not up to the fill hole
 
the tranny was dated dec 46 if that makes a difference and the serial is 75386
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong,..But I do believe filling the trans with fluid will also fill the t-case.
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if you put a liter in, you probably have put too much in:
 
i run a syn-blend in mine, 80/90W
 
tranny: 3 pints=24 ounces
 
transfercase:  3 pints=24 ounces
 
a liter is a little more than a US quart (32 ounces)
 
i do not have a fan belt # for you, but i have the specifications, any parts dealer should be able to get you a belt with these dimensions...
 
type:  "V"
 
angle of vee:  42 degrees
 
length outside:  42 11/32"
 
width: 21/32"
 
hope this helps..low
 
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Originally posted by CJ2aAl CJ2aAl wrote:

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong,..But I do believe filling the trans with fluid will also fill the t-case.
 
yes, but no....each unit has it's own fill/drain system....there is a relief drilled into the cases to maintain a hidden relief of internal pressure, fluid could "sneek" past that, but that relief is too high in the case that i would think fluid would not equal out between the 2....that is why there are seals, and sealed bearings on the output shaft of the tranny....stopp fluid from travelling either direction....low


Edited by lowenuf - 12 May 2008 at 1:02am
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How 'bout a Napa  22425.
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Originally posted by lowenuf lowenuf wrote:

if you put a liter in, you probably have put too much in:
 
i run a syn-blend in mine, 80/90W
 
tranny: 3 pints=24 ounces
 
transfercase:  3 pints=24 ounces
 
a liter is a little more than a US quart (32 ounces)
 
i do not have a fan belt # for you, but i have the specifications, any parts dealer should be able to get you a belt with these dimensions...
 
type:  "V"
 
angle of vee:  42 degrees
 
length outside:  42 11/32"
 
width: 21/32"
 
hope this helps..low
 
 
Hmm I thought you filled them to the fill hole??  guess i was wrong ill drain them down and put in the amount you stated   but if they are not filled to the hole how do you check the level????
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remove the fill plug, take your pinky finger, insert it into the hole, bending it downward, and fluid should make the tip of your finger wet :)  3 pints will put the fluid at about 1/4" below the hole...low
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http://www.thecj2apage.com/specs.html
 
read halfway down, lubrication guide....the 6 1/2 pints US is the TOTAL fluid for BOTH units....which amounts to 3.72 litres total, so one could assume half of 3.72 would be 1.75 +/- half liter....i never had to learn the metric system :) and i correct my previous stated amount, a liter is a little LESS than a US quart...sorry for the confusion...  low
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                  After serial # 24196 they drilled holes between the two cases so the oil migrate or circulate . I would fill each case up to a point where the oil  starts to come out the hole . You are filling it from the side and not the top?
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sid, it wasn't for the oil to migrate, it was to reduce internal pressures of each case, and do away with the vented cap on top of the tranny cover...thus only needing the vent on the top of the transfercase..have you ever seen the hole they drilled?  it is too high in the case for oil to fill  into both cavaties, unless the jeep is sitting on a sharp incline....i will have to dig out Joe DeYoung's pics he sent me, but the if you were to look into the PTO hole of the transfercase, the hole we speak of is at the 2 o'clock position, with a relief cut into the rail boss that is in between the 2 cases, thus relieving that internal pressure when the two cases are mated.....that relief had nothing to do with oil flow, it is for equal venting purposes...low
 
allow me to add this however...until i find this email from Joe with reasoning, or the paperwork i have read it from, i will say, that i MAY be wrong, i just hope i am not...  :)


Edited by lowenuf - 12 May 2008 at 2:44am
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     low, I'm not a expert on this subject, I just read this out of the mechanic's manual .
          Effective with model cj2a serial # 24196 oil circulation was provided between the transmission and transfer case by drilling two 7/16"holes . What do you think. Maybe I'm reading wrong. It wouldn't been the first time. sid
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Mike, it was done for common circulation, to finally eliminate the problem of oil migrating from one case to another.


The new holes were drilled lower down, one just above, and one right at the Tx fill plug level:
    
With the cross flow, the main shaft oil seal between cases no longer served any purpose, so was eliminated.

Since the Tx fill hole is higher than the TC, total fluid capacity increased by 1/2 pint.  Prior to this, it was 3 + 3 pints each.  After this it was 3 pints Tx, 3.5 pints TC.

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thx sean, SUDSIE, i apologize for having my facts backwards....i found my pics from joe deyoung, and obviously the orientation of them is/was upside down to me...please excuse my ignorance....low
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