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Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

Originally posted by wadoyado wadoyado wrote:

By second pic I meant the one on the hog. Joe W

Lol oh! I thought i did something dumb on the jeep. Besides the chrome air filter
 
Something dumb on the jeep? Sounds like that's your plan, there's plenty out there already hacked. Why not start with one of those??
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That number on the toeboard brace isn't going to help you a whole lot if that's the only you have.


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Originally posted by RICKG RICKG wrote:

Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

Originally posted by wadoyado wadoyado wrote:

By second pic I meant the one on the hog. Joe W

Lol oh! I thought i did something dumb on the jeep. Besides the chrome air filter
 
Something dumb on the jeep? Sounds like that's your plan, there's plenty out there already hacked. Why not start with one of those??

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Originally posted by rocnroll rocnroll wrote:

That number on the toeboard brace isn't going to help you a whole lot if that's the only you have.



Eh its fine, as long as i can get tags for it i can care less what numbers are on it. Its old stuff happens. Only thing kool about the numbers would be if it told me history on it. 
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Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

Originally posted by rocnroll rocnroll wrote:

That number on the toeboard brace isn't going to help you a whole lot if that's the only you have.



Eh its fine, as long as i can get tags for it i can care less what numbers are on it. Its old stuff happens. Only thing kool about the numbers would be if it told me history on it. 

When you're involved in an accident and the investigating officer goes to compare the number on the registration with the number on the vehicle, you're goin' to have some 'splainin' to do, Lucy.

Oh, by the way, let us know how that air cleaner works out. Believe it or not, that thing will not pass enough air to feed an L134 at 10,000 ft. AMHIK.  BW
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Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

Eh its fine, as long as i can get tags for it i can care less what numbers are on it.




Well, uh, that's kinda what I was talking about......you may "can care less what numbers are on it" but I'm thinking the Arkansas DMV may have a different 'care tolerance' than you do.

So you already have a serial number that you can get tags for it with then?



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Ask dad about the tags... they are definitely there in one of your OP pics.

Check the title you have against any possible frame tag before you run off to the DMV.  If you do get past the nice lady at the DMV I'd invest in some repop tags if you can't find the originals.

This last part is just me... i'm sure everything is fine, but I didnt even put gas in mine until I had a new title in my name.  0.02
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Originally posted by Bruce W Bruce W wrote:

Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

Originally posted by rocnroll rocnroll wrote:

That number on the toeboard brace isn't going to help you a whole lot if that's the only you have.



Eh its fine, as long as i can get tags for it i can care less what numbers are on it. Its old stuff happens. Only thing kool about the numbers would be if it told me history on it. 

When you're involved in an accident and the investigating officer goes to compare the number on the registration with the number on the vehicle, you're goin' to have some 'splainin' to do, Lucy.

Oh, by the way, let us know how that air cleaner works out. Believe it or not, that thing will not pass enough air to feed an L134 at 10,000 ft. AMHIK.  BW
 
I can just save a lot of money by putting the jeep in reverse and leaving the accident? lol joking
 
I was wondering if that filter was going to work its off a vw beetle I just did not like the org air cleaner setup so I just put that on it. I do plan on putting the oil bath back on after its painted but just running a rubber hose to it when I need it.
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Originally posted by mbullism mbullism wrote:

Ask dad about the tags... they are definitely there in one of your OP pics.

Check the title you have against any possible frame tag before you run off to the DMV.  If you do get past the nice lady at the DMV I'd invest in some repop tags if you can't find the originals.

This last part is just me... i'm sure everything is fine, but I didnt even put gas in mine until I had a new title in my name.  0.02
 
well lol funny story! called my dad last night and now he says he doesn't know where the title is.
 
this is the dmv's website
 
Requirements: 

1) Affidavit for license for an Antique Vehicle completed by the applicant.

2) If the vehicle is already titled and registered to the applicant, the registration certificate or other acceptable proof of ownership which includes the year, make, model, and vehicle identification number; OR
3) If the vehicle is not titled and registered to the applicant, the following: a) The previous title, if available, or if not, bills of sale reflecting the year, make, model, and vehicle identification number; OR b) If the vehicle is assembled from a variety of sources, the owner may present bills of sale for the principal parts. The bills of sale should indicate the source and include the motor or body serial number.  If only one bill of sale is presented, the customer will be informed that he or she must use the Bonded Title Procedures for issuance of title
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Originally posted by rocnroll rocnroll wrote:

Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

Eh its fine, as long as i can get tags for it i can care less what numbers are on it.




Well, uh, that's kinda what I was talking about......you may "can care less what numbers are on it" but I'm thinking the Arkansas DMV may have a different 'care tolerance' than you do.

So you already have a serial number that you can get tags for it with then?


 
wasn't trying to come off like an ass or anything. I care a lot about the jeep! I was half asleep when I wrote that barley remember.. im calling the dmv when that open to see how I can go about this
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Welcome aboard Jason,have fun with your repairs and ask lots of question ,there a lots of good  people on here to help.You have a nice jeep to start with compare to others.Make it yours and have fun with it.Wish I could have find one like that .Thumbs Up
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Yes indeed welcome aboard.  There is a ton a great information here.  I highly recommend using the search function.  Just about any upgrade or repair you are considering has been discussed here.  Understanding the braking system and brake upgrades is particularly important, and not something to undertake without a thorough understanding of the system.  There is a lot of great info on 10"and 11" drum brakes, and disc brake conversions here.  A little bit of time with the search function will reap great rewards.
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Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

 
well lol funny story! called my dad last night and now he says he doesn't know where the title is.
 

Lol... tell your dad it's with the tags Wink

with the title and firewall tags in the wind I'd be hesitant to try and title it with just the frame tag number (if that even exists)  I love your dad, lol, but my gut is telling me those tags might be running around on another rig Confused ... a.k.a. can't think of another good reason to pull the tags.

I've not done it, but I think you have to have a number that comes up clean to get a bonded title.  My concern would be if you applied for a frame tag number it may come back as in use during a title search...

All of the above is pure speculation, and a polite way of suggesting you get your paperwork straight before you invest a lot of time and money in something you can't register (without purchasing "historical/for collecting only" documents Wink )

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ndnchf I have a hard time using the search function half the time I just google it and this site pops up
 
thanks gil ! I just hope everything works out with it in the long run
 
 
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Originally posted by mbullism mbullism wrote:

Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

 
well lol funny story! called my dad last night and now he says he doesn't know where the title is.
 

Lol... tell your dad it's with the tags Wink

with the title and firewall tags in the wind I'd be hesitant to try and title it with just the frame tag number (if that even exists)  I love your dad, lol, but my gut is telling me those tags might be running around on another rig Confused ... a.k.a. can't think of another good reason to pull the tags.

I've not done it, but I think you have to have a number that comes up clean to get a bonded title.  My concern would be if you applied for a frame tag number it may come back as in use during a title search...

All of the above is pure speculation, and a polite way of suggesting you get your paperwork straight before you invest a lot of time and money in something you can't register (without purchasing "historical/for collecting only" documents Wink )
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RIGHT! im not going to make it nice and paint it if i cant drive it around town..
i would just leave it as is and make it a woods beater but i really rather not do that...
 
i just got off the horn with a super nice lady at the dvm who knows a lot about old stuff like this and she said for me to get the engine, chassis, and body s.n and call her back Monday and she will get me a bonded title or at least try to. YAY
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I'm like 80% sure my dad drove this around in the day with no tags lol
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Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

ndnchf I have a hard time using the search function half the time I just google it and this site pops up
 
thanks gil ! I just hope everything works out with it in the long run
 
 

Yeah, the search function can be a little quirky, but all the Google hits just shows how much great info there is here. Nothing wrong with asking questions too, just saying a lot of what you want to know may already be at your fingertips.  The only downside is some of the old posts had photos linked to photobucket.  Due to photobucket changes in their linking policy, many of those photos are no longer visible without going to their site. And that is a real PITA.
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Originally posted by jasonbass jasonbass wrote:

 
i just got off the horn with a super nice lady at the dvm who knows a lot about old stuff like this and she said for me to get the engine, chassis, and body s.n and call her back Monday .....
 
First off, there are a lot of guys around here that "knows about old stuff like this" too and have already been through the DMV scenarios....
 
You might want to glance through this link on SERIAL Numbers:
 
 
What others here have been trying to tell you is in your first pictures there are serial number tags on your jeep (or were)......in your later pics those tags (we are using this term as i.d. tags....you seem to be using that term as ''license plates' ) are obviously taken off....which is where you may have trouble.
 
The stamped number in your picture you are pointing out where you mentioned cowboy is the ACM number (read up on that a little).....this should not be confused with it being a serial number...it's not.
 
Your dad (or someone) may have removed the actual serial number tags and used them to register ("get tags for" in your jargon) in the State of Arkansas....if this is the case the original numbers for this jeep are running around somewhere else....THAT is what the DMV is going to be interested in.
 
The numbers the nice DMV lady asked for...so, the "engine" (number doesn't match serial number anyway) "chassis number" (not one unless there is a number plate still riveted to the frame horn) which will be the actual serial number of this jeep and "body number" she asked for are all going to be different numbers.
 
IF you give her a number that is riveted to that jeep and the id tags have been used on another jeep then that will probably (or should be) a red flag at the DMV.
 
I ( and others) have been trying to say...you need to get with your Dad and try to figure why the id tags are missing and whether they are in some drawer there or what.
 
Regardless, read that link on serial numbers and maybe that will help some.
 
 
 
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