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GaryArf
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Posted: 09 June 2007 at 1:57pm |
CJ2A #10021 #34692 #58500
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samcj2a
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Gary,
The first of the three matches 15292 - dimpled pin of some sort, I think, neat and not irregular at all.
Edit: As I relook at your picture, I believe that the rod was turned with a shoulder that allowed the smaller diameter end to project slightly through that upper bracket. The piece was probably heated and peened as a rivet would be, but in a way that left a very neat appearance. Edited by samcj2a - 10 June 2007 at 9:18pm |
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thx gary!!! this thread will help us tremendously!!!!! low
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45 #10033 ACM #47 45 #10163 ACM #188 57 CJ5 Dauntless V6, T-18 4-speed, D-44 rear/D-30 front, D-20 twin stick |
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sean
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Gary:
Your first photo is factory. Installed as Sam suggests. 2nd & 3rd photos are probably field repairs. These pins have often come loose from the bracket (probably by a pissed-off PO slamming the gearshift around trying to keep it in second gear! ). My own had been drilled for a cotter-pin to keep it in place: http://www.cj-2a.com/oldsite/shifter/asm/index.html http://www.cj-2a.com/oldsite/shifter/partsdraw/csgp/index.html Sean Edited by sean - 02 June 2010 at 6:41pm |
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samcj2a
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I chuckled, of course, at Sean's notion of why these parts needed repair frequently. I'm one for three in 2As with respect to their staying in second gear. From the time of my first C/S I have regarded all of the column shift linkage components as poorly engineered - in sophisticated mechanical engineering terms, "rinky dink". It's easy to understand why Willys went back to the cane shift.
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Doug
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Just wanted to add to this, Recently took a close look at a 49 WO pickup. The Phillips screw looking impression in the second pick is what I saw. Looked 100% factory to me.
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samcj2a
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A little speculation here - looking at Gary's second picture and seeing Doug's observation, I also notice that the bracket on the second picture seems to have more shrply defined corners as it comes off the column. The first and third show brackets with more rounded corners right off the column. It makes me think that the 2A C/S brackets and "pins" were slightly different than the reimplementation of the C/S on later vehicles. If so, that would make Gary's second picture a column from other than a 2A. Is that possible or likely, Gary? And, Gary, does the column in the second picture actually have a sharper corner on the bracket than the other two, or am I just not seeing whatever is in the shadow? Also, Doug, does the pickup bracket have the sharper corners on the bracket as it comes off the column?
Edited by samcj2a - 22 June 2007 at 9:40am |
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Doug
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Sam, Like a fool, I didn't have my camera handy.
All I can say is that something about it seemed different than the 2a column. I'd be curious to know if there's a difference in overall length of the steering column from one to the next. Pondered the thoughts of Gary's second column being from something other than a 2a...but without more info it is just speculation. I'm guessing he's going to scrutinize it now and let us now what he thinks. |
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sean
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I believe the columns in utility trucks were longer (station wagons, panels, pickups & jeepsters).
DJ3A column was the same length, but used a different clutch housing, so might have had a different pin attachment too. Sean Edited by sean - 23 June 2007 at 12:58pm |
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GaryArf
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Ok, here is what I know for sure.
The black column (one with the weld) I got from Jim at Northstar. It was from either a truck or a wagon as it was longer than the 2a..I just cut it down and drilled a new hole for the pin and installed the column shift assembly from #34692. It has slightly sharper corners than the fisrt pic but not near as sharp as the (philips) one.
The one with the cross (philips) came from a guy in ND it came off Jeep #18xxx. The column shift assembly looks like it may have cracked an ear off the housing and was brazed to the column (no way to service this unit)
This brought me to purchase the one in the first pic, history unknown hence the original question.
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CJ2A #10021 #34692 #58500
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daddyo4
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#13480 has the more rounded corners and the "perfect" rivet on the end of the pin. I am 99% sure this is original. #18711 has the rounded corners also, but the end of the pin has been drilled and tapped, so as to secure with a screw. This may be an attempted field repair, as the selector shaft has had some weld work done to it. I could swear I had a "phillips" style like the 2nd pic... it'll turn up sometime.
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