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    Posted: 30 May 2016 at 1:45pm
I came across this in my parts pile. I never really looked closely at it before, because it came in a pile of extra parts during a trade a couple years ago. It's a dana18H PTO housing with a Ramsey front/rear PTO chain case grafted on the back. I'll try post pics here, but if I can't I'll set up a Photobucket for them( if that's that allowed?)
I really want to know if this was a normal thing people did or if his was frankensteined just for expediency. I was planning on selling it when I noticed it just didn't look the same as others for sale.
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I look forward to seeing pictures, but I'm guessing since the Spicer 18H and the Ramsey PT1 are nearly identical that they mated the chain drive box to the 18H.
 
Pictures will tell for sure, but it would not be the norm.
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Here's a link to the Photobucket album. I got confirmation this morning that its a mod. It's supposedly from a company in BC,Canada. Other than that I have no other info about it. He welds are clean and it didn't vibrate when I remember driving it.


http://s1243.photobucket.com/user/X57535/library/Dana%2018H%20and%20Ramsey%20PTO%20combo
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I'm going to try go to the farm today and get pics of the chain drive.
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Although this is an older post, came across the same situation today. Hope these pics help to understand this set-up. 

Strange... for sure. Ermm







Of course, bearings need replacement and chain shorten. 




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1948 CJ2A- Ramsey DP-1 shifter,PTO,front Ramsey MX200-R winch, Newgren lift
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1955 CJ5- PTO/belt drive,farm weight
1954 CJ3B- trencher,front blade
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Here is a closer look at the Spicer 18H end. It appears roller chain is #50.


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Looks like mine. This 18H has no serial number but remnants of the blue paint can be seen on the PTO and the chain box. I assumed this was an early version before the Ramsey branded aluminum PTO.





These have been cleaned up, rebuilt, installed and working great for the past 5 years.
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Originally posted by Mike P Mike P wrote:

Looks like mine. This 18H has no serial number but remnants of the blue paint can be seen on the PTO and the chain box. I assumed this was an early version before the Ramsey branded aluminum PTO.





These have been cleaned up, rebuilt, installed and working great for the past 5 years.

Thanks for your feedback. Would you still happen the have the part numbers of your bearings, sealings, etc. from your rebuild that you could please share?


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1946 CJ2A- Supersonic motor
1948 CJ2A- Ramsey DP-1 shifter,PTO,front Ramsey MX200-R winch, Newgren lift
1955 Sears Trailer
1955 CJ5- PTO/belt drive,farm weight
1954 CJ3B- trencher,front blade
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Pretty sure that the chain is NOT a 50 pitch, at least my Ramsey is not.
 I tool the chain & sprockets in to my local industrial bearing house & they thought that is was some oddball setup. If anyone knows for sure let me know!
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Originally posted by dasvis dasvis wrote:

Pretty sure that the chain is NOT a 50 pitch, at least my Ramsey is not.
 I tool the chain & sprockets in to my local industrial bearing house & they thought that is was some oddball setup. If anyone knows for sure let me know!

Interesting info on the chain. This one is a continuous loop without a repair/ connecting link of any kind. Was planning on going to TSC and grab some 1/2 and full repair links. We already have the breaker tool.
Will wait and see what feedback you get from your post. Thanks.
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cjbilly,
The bearings are 6205 and 6304. 6205 have a 0.984 inch bore and 6304 have a 0.787 inch bore. Diameter and width are the same at 2.047 inch and 0.591 respectively.

The seals are 7440.

As always, verify before you buy! 😉

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Interesting info on the chain. This one is a continuous loop without a repair/ connecting link of any kind. Was planning on going to TSC and grab some 1/2 and full repair links. We already have the breaker tool.
Will wait and see what feedback you get from your post. Thanks.
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Your chain does not need to be shortened, it needs to be replaced!, it’s stretched out of pitch and will wear the sprockets if you shorten it.

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