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    Posted: 08 Feb. 2010 at 6:40pm
General Question: I looking for the proper grease to fill my steering knuckles on a '47 CJ2A. Some
prior threads mention about knuckle "puddy", but I am not familiar with this.
 
Can I use universal joint lube that you use to grease ball joints, tie-rod ends, etc?
 
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Well you could make up the knuckle pudding using 90wt gear oil and grease 50/50. But it's much easier to use the more modern CV joint grease available at most parts stores. About two tubes/packets per knuckle should do it.
 
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Novak sells some but it's on the expensive side. www.Novak-Adapt.com . Some guys use a Heavy Oil/Grease product made for "Pulp-Wood" harvesters you might check with a Forrest Products Supplier.
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i just used 90 wt gear oil and regular zerk grease and it seems to work fine so far time will tell.
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Thanks.. I looked at the web site and I think I might order it. I've been confused about
which grease/lube to use, so this might be the answer.
 
 
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I use Land Rover steering knuckle lube, very similar to CV grease. They used that design until 2003 (or soLOL) on some models, guess they figured if it works, why change it. They have since gone to CV joints (non rebuildable, so is that an improvement?LOL)
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 In my M715 and some past LR's, I've used John Deere Cornhead grease. If you have a John Deere equipment dealer nearby they keep it in stock.

  Its about the consistency of thin grease or very thick gear oil. "Knuckle pudding" is just a mixture of gear oil and grease as sated above.

It isn't leaking, it's just marking its territory.
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Here's a thread I belive should be moved right in the FAQ section.
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Originally posted by westforkboyd westforkboyd wrote:

Well you could make up the knuckle pudding using 90wt gear oil and grease 50/50. But it's much easier to use the more modern CV joint grease available at most parts stores. About two tubes/packets per knuckle should do it.
 
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two tubes? what size tubes are we talking?
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The CV joint grease comes in 4 oz. tubes, like a small toothpaste tube.  NAPA and other parts houses has it.  Each knuckle, if dry, will hold 8 oz. per specs.  With knuckle pudding I have heard concerns about possible incompatability of gear oil and grease, but don't know if there is anything to that.  Anyway, with the CV grease there is not the mess of mixing and squirting it in.  Just squirt it in until it blurps back at you.  I use about half a tube a year for maintenance.  Hope this helps.
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Thanks, Frank for the detailed description. This is what I was looking for. My 2A is not completely
dry, I just want to top off the knuckle seals before I go off-roading.
 
By the way, did you notice any difference in the way your Jeep handled once you fill the steering
knuckles? 
I've heared from other Jeep owners that if the kunckles are low on grease this
will aggravate the infamous "Willys Steering Shake/Shimmy" , especially if you are going over
rough roads.
I think I already have this condition in my CJ due to kingpin bearings starting to
fail. I was hoping to delay changing them by topping off with grease for awhile, but I' not
sure....
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You are welcome, John.
No, I didn't notice any difference in the steering, but then my jeep has only seen pavement once in the last 3 years (except for towing).  In fact it seldom sees a road at all, and 90% of the time it is in low range.  It is my "tractor" on our wooded homestead.  The steering is kind of sloppy.  Last summer I took out on the highway to see if it had the "death wobble".  Got it over 45 downhill trying to stay ahead of a logging truck.  Really spooky, but no death wobble.  I have had rigs with the death wobble...you have to clean your pants after the first timeLOL.
 
I am not a mechanic like some on this forum, more of a tinkerer, but I doubt the grease would have any effect on the shimmy.  Shimmy is caused by wear on parts between the king pins and steering box.  And usually more than one part.  My own opinion is that most any grease in the knuckles will serve the purpose, even CriscoWink (don't shoot me experts!), as long as it does not leak out.  The knuckle grease just provides lube for the u-joint and knuckle housing ball.  When you think about it, the knuckles do not get alot of stress IF everything is lined up and shimmed properly, especially under the relatively light use jeeps get.  Proper grease is much more important on the high load/stress components like wheel bearings and king pin bearings.  Just my 3 cents.
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The proper lube for the closed knuckle differential is a #0 or #1 sodium based grease this is what is available thru Novak. 



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Some more information/updated links:

John Deere corn head grease (available at local JD dealers)

http://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-Head-Gun-Grease-AN102562.html

Novak website on front knuckles:

https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/steering-knuckle-repair/

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John Deere Corn head grease is available at any good farm equipment store and is exactly what the manual calls for it is 0 grade grease. It comes in a large grease gun sized tube and is dirt cheap at less then $5.00 a tube.
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I use a generous amount of the  JD Corn Head grease too.  Then I top the well off with 85-140.
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