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joedavis
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Posted: 16 Mar. 2011 at 8:47pm |
i have a 46 cj2a with the 4-134 in it. coil is new. new wires. new plugs. new points. new cap and rotor. have current at the top of the distributor but nothing going to the plugs or even down the wires for that matter. at this point im am absolutely lost as for where to go to next. i learned to drive on this willys jeep when i was 7 years old. i had my head under a hood ever since but for some reason ive got a got that popped up over the winter on this one. first time ive ever had a problem with it and before i replaced the parts(ignition) they were all original. gotta love the jeep... so what is my next plan of action
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hillbilly21
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Starter button,,ignition switch,,condensor , points
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samcj2a
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And the other thing to keep in mind is that there have been many reports of new ignition parts being faulty out of the box, particularly condensers.
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warbrds
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I agree, check the new parts, do you have power to the distrbutor? If you have a Fluke type meter you can check connections, etc.
Plug wire good?
Back track methodically from where you ended up and you should be able to find the problem, issue
Don't just throw parts at it, keep track of what you are doing and checking
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Mark
1946 CJ2A "When you're out of Sixes, you're out of Interceptors" |
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plowpusher
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start at the beginning 1. do you have power at the coil + when key is on 2. make sure wire from coil - goes to distributor points. 3.bump engine around until the points are closed. 4. check the secondary coil wire for continuity with an ohm meter (1000 OHMS PER INCH) Install the secondary coil wire in the coil with other end about 1/8 inch from a good ground. 5. flick the points open and closed you should have a spark between coil wire and ground. If not check for power at points. if you have power. run a file across the points the spay with carb spray and run a clean business card between the contacts flick them again, still no spark change out the condenser (Iwould start by using the old one) remember to lube the rubbing block at the distributor cam after spaying the carb spray in the distributor. Doing this will eliminate any guess work if all this works and still no spark at the plugs it's the rotor cap or plug wires check the wires with an ohm meter inspect the cap and rotor.
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when i grow up i wanna be a kid
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jeep_cj2a
Member Joined: 09 Mar. 2011 Location: Eugene, Oregon Status: Offline Points: 42 |
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I had a problem like this. I had power all the way to the coil wire, but once I hooked everything up to the distributor, nothing.
Turns out I had a bad ground. One of the little rubber boots that go on the screw that holds in the points and transfers power to the points from the coil was grounding it out to the side of the distributor case. I got it running again and then the next day it quit. I bought a non-conductive little piece of plastic and put it behind the coil spring (which was grounding out to the side of the distributor case). It needs to have a non-conductive washer on both sides of the bolt on the distributor case wall and then watch out for the points spring touching anything. Been running good since then! |
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1947 CJ2A. Rebuilt flathead. Sears hard top. Converted to 12 volt. The rest is completely stock.
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p3ferris
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Here is something that is not mentioned Is the battery wire hooked to the positive side of the coil?
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Ed
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joedavis
Member Joined: 16 Mar. 2011 Location: martinsville,IN Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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i have power all the way to the top of the cap. power to the coil and put all new plugs wires cap and rotor points and condenser on it again. still have nothing. checking the non conductive washers on it today hoping it will solve my problem and let the ghost disapear.
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p3ferris
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You have power to the cap..Distributer cap? If so not the points. Check that you have the wires ALL the way down in the distributer cap. Sometimes they go in but do not click all the way down. Then with one spark plug laying down grounded to the neg. see if you have spark.
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Ed
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jeep_cj2a
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Let us know how it goes. For as simple as the electrical systems on these Jeeps are, very little is shielded from grounding out and a lot can go wrong. Also: I hate points. :P
I've really been looking into an EFI module that replaces the points and sits inside your distributor cap, because I hate timing distributors, and I hate when points burn out, and I hate gapping points. h8h8h8. |
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1947 CJ2A. Rebuilt flathead. Sears hard top. Converted to 12 volt. The rest is completely stock.
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joedavis
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im gonna end up replacing the distributor. with the money ive put in to parts to replace this one i could have already bought a new replacement. im upgradind to an electronic ignition and doing away with the points system. it makes more sense and is more dependable along with being just as easy to work on. tahnk you to all that pitched in advice. once i get the stock distributor out im gonna look it over inside and out to find the problem. ill post what i find. thanks again.
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jeep_cj2a
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No shame in that. If you're going for a full restore, just don't pop the distributor cap off and no one will know the difference.
I'm going to do that...once I fix the last three other things. I always get everything working...then come the improvements. |
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1947 CJ2A. Rebuilt flathead. Sears hard top. Converted to 12 volt. The rest is completely stock.
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FlyingAnchor
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Joe,
Ran into the same problem myself with a '47 that I have and use for light farm work. Wanted to know what came about with your solution. I have no spark (every once in a while a thin orange spark)...good juice to the distributor, both primary and secondary coils check good (replaced the coil anyway) points check good, condenser is new, cap & rotor new, plug wires new, but damn thing won't start. After some reading I am suspecting it may be grounding out somewhere in the wiring harness before it reaches the coil. I am going to check the primary and secondary coil again for proper spark. But by all accounts it (spark) looks like it leaves the distributor and disappears...only thing I can think of is that the spark I am getting at the coil is not enough and thus the weak and very intermittent spark I get at the plug. I have a very well versed Jeep mate that assisted me and he is perplexed as well...... |
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plowpusher
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Run a wire from the battery positive post to the coil positive crank the engine this will eliminate the wiring to the coil from the rest of the jeep.Clean the points with a point file or emery board.
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when i grow up i wanna be a kid
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Maahlers
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These old post still saving sanity today. Was having a similar issue. Found that the square nut inside the distributor where the points are connected was grounding itself out against the distributor body. Was driving me crazy for a week! This was an ICW by the way.
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cpt logger
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What does ICW stand for? Google is of little help with this one. Some of my guesses: International Collegiate Wrestling? I can't Wait? Insulated Copper Wire? Insane Clock Works? I Can't Work? Intense Clown Workshop? I sure wish folks would just spell out what they mean, especially with these odd ones.
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Mark W.
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ICW IAT IAD are all Autolite distributor number prefixes
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cpt logger
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Thanks Mark. I learned something new today.
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