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    Posted: 10 Feb. 2013 at 6:10am
Looking through my small collection of 16" wheels,  I have 3 different styles. . . Which style was most common on '2A ?  how about on '3A?     It seems that Willys did a lot of mix and matching,  so there may not be a simple answer.
All are 4.5" . . Photo below shows of two of the three styles: 
  Style 1 has a raised section at each lug nut. 
  Style 2 has a "ring" in the lug nut area, and a "flat" on outer end of "spoke" (circled in photo)
  Style 3 (not shown) has a "ring" in the lug nut area, but no "flat" on outer end of "spoke"
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Bruce Mullen   Harrisville, WV       

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JeepFever Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb. 2013 at 1:49pm
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Thanks  . .   I did see that thread,  but it mostly talks about solid wheels,  a little about 15", . . It does mention two of the wheels I have,  but I could not determine which year CJ's used what type.   I might need to go back and read it more closely.
 
In searching I also found some threads that talked about the wheels with the flats on the spokes, and if I remember it was suggested those were on M38 or M38A1 (I forget right now).  
 
I will keep looking,  but was hoping someone knows off the top of head.  Smile 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote athawk11 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb. 2013 at 4:57pm
JF,
On my most recent 3A, I have a pair of Style #1 and a pair of Style #2.
 
I'm curious about style #2.  The thread that Mullen linked doesn't appear to talk about style #2.
 
It probably belongs on something other than a 2A or 3A, but I have no idea.
 
I wonder if someone can point JP and myself in the right direction??
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote F Bill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb. 2013 at 8:15pm
I have always hear the stepped rim was from jeep pickups or wagons. I do not have any documentatilon documentation to back that up. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.
 
For anyone that doesn't know, type one above is a motor wheel, and type three is a Kelsey Hayes.


Edited by F Bill - 10 Feb. 2013 at 10:06pm
If you haven't checked out the tech FAQ section, go to:
http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/tech-faq_forum57.html
for a lot of great stuff you need to know!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ralf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb. 2013 at 8:43pm
All of the pick up wheels I have seen have a 1/8 in hole drilled in the outer edge of center.  Don't know why.  I will look for pic.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote F Bill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb. 2013 at 8:52pm
That hole I have heard identified the heavier rims built for the M 38.. But, as I said before, I coudl be wrong..  I have seen the hole.. Perhaps we need a Wheels FAQ update.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ralf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb. 2013 at 9:15pm
These are wheels I took off two Willys pick ups and run them on my 47.






These came on a 48 but I guess they are truck wheels.  Some tread!








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#2 in my photo,  has a K-H in the lug ring,  like shown in Ralf's top photo,  (but does not have the 1/8" hole)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Joe Friday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb. 2013 at 10:02pm

#1 is early motor wheel and was mixed with solids...

#2 is Kelsey Hayes, with the 1/8 hole at the bolt circle is M38, without the 1/8 hole is M38A1 and M170?
#3 is motor wheel.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bob W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb. 2013 at 10:17pm
There is an excellent article about wheels over on the MJeeps forum.
http://willysmjeeps.com/downloads/M38JeepRim.4.pdf

The 1/8" hole appears on M-38 wheels and truck wheels. M-38 wheels are 4.5" wide with a safety bead. Truck wheels are wider and have no safety bead. The wheels with the flat area on the outer edge of the disc (wheel #2) are later design wheels.

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Thanks for the refresher Bob. I forgot about the safety hump
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 19Cargo42 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Sep. 2019 at 2:57am
Likewise, I'm trying to figure out what rims I want to use on my 1945 CJ2A. It presently has 15" rims that I think are original Kelsey Hayes rims. I want to change over to 16" rims, but will keep the 15" in storage.



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