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Topic: Lets see yer Luzon Red Jeeps!
Posted By: garage gnome
Subject: Lets see yer Luzon Red Jeeps!
Date Posted: 10 Aug. 2012 at 7:21pm
Here's my '49's original Luzon Red.





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Nate
1953 3A, 1949 3A, 1947 2A, 1918 IHC Titan 10-20, 1905 IHC Famous, other hit n misses



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Posted By: Lew Ladwig
Date Posted: 10 Aug. 2012 at 10:08pm
I know computers can skew colors but that looks more like harvard red.  Here is mine in Harvard Red.


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Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 10 Aug. 2012 at 10:20pm
Yep, I thought the same thing.  

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Sam

1946 CJ2A   15292 ACM    6678

1947 CJ2A 122031 ACM 111989

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Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 10 Aug. 2012 at 10:27pm
One of the best examples of Luzon Red is Allen Boyd's Lefty.  Here's one photo of it.




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Sam

1946 CJ2A   15292 ACM    6678

1947 CJ2A 122031 ACM 111989

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Posted By: Lew Ladwig
Date Posted: 10 Aug. 2012 at 10:32pm
OK,
Here is the perfect match for Harvard red:
PPG Delstar DAR 72182H Red
With DXR 80 hardener
over DP74LF primer
I think I used about 1.3 gallons. That may seem like a lot as to paint a car would be a lot less, but on the jeep you are painting the bottom side of the tub, inside of the tub, tool box, under dash, firewall etc.
Out of all the W-O colors I think this is the flashiest. I know my jeep turns a lot of heads.
Lew


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Posted By: otto
Date Posted: 11 Aug. 2012 at 12:31am
This is the only original paint left! I think it is a nice color.
 
 
 


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48 CJ2A
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Posted By: Howard
Date Posted: 11 Aug. 2012 at 10:59am
Cool! Love that color!
Not to detract, but how about the Blue guys, yellow guys, tan, too!
Wouldn't it be good to put all these 'color' threads together somewhere on the site?
Fun!


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Howard F Jewett

1946 CJ2A #23353

43 GPW 106505 USA #20366014

43 Bantam Trailer T3 #14844

52 M100 K1119


Posted By: garage gnome
Date Posted: 11 Aug. 2012 at 5:38pm
They'll have to start their own thread. LOL I started this one since I'm trying to expose the original paint on my '49 3A.

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Nate
1953 3A, 1949 3A, 1947 2A, 1918 IHC Titan 10-20, 1905 IHC Famous, other hit n misses


Posted By: CHARLIE JEEP
Date Posted: 15 Aug. 2012 at 2:24pm
Here it's mine in Argentina............


Cheers,
Charlie


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CJ-2A #114467 1947        Slat Grill #124991 1942        SPEN trailer 1948              


Posted By: Joe DeYoung
Date Posted: 16 Aug. 2012 at 7:48am
WOW.... love your jeep Charlie. How about a few more pics of that gem.

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Joe DeYoung
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Posted By: Rob H.
Date Posted: 16 Aug. 2012 at 9:18am
My 48 still has a few spots of the original Luzon red showing, as does the 52 3A I bought off of munkjeep this summer. I have considered going back too it.

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Rob H.

1948 CJ2A
bits and pieces of three 3A's
1967-72 Chevy C/10 kinda combined them LOL






Posted By: F Bill
Date Posted: 16 Aug. 2012 at 9:29am
Sam, Allen's jeep is a real nice example, but it had been repainted. Sure would like to know whose formula was used, as it is spot on.
 
RIP Allen.


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Posted By: CHARLIE JEEP
Date Posted: 16 Aug. 2012 at 10:38am
Hi Joe, 
many thanks for your comment !
Here is another photos from the other side......

Cheers,
Charlie Saguier


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CJ-2A #114467 1947        Slat Grill #124991 1942        SPEN trailer 1948              


Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 16 Aug. 2012 at 10:41am
Originally posted by F Bill F Bill wrote:

Sam, Allen's jeep is a real nice example, but it had been repainted. Sure would like to know whose formula was used, as it is spot on.
 
RIP Allen.
Did not know that. Embarrassed No wonder I thought it was a great example!   Thanks for the heads up, Bill.


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Sam

1946 CJ2A   15292 ACM    6678

1947 CJ2A 122031 ACM 111989

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Posted By: Outback
Date Posted: 16 Aug. 2012 at 1:54pm
I'm normally not a fan of red, but I do like the look of it on Charlie's Jeep.

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Dunc

46 CJ2A # 16021 (Oakley)
05 TJ Rubicon (Prairie Prowler)
M101CDN trailer
Westman Jeep Assn & FFCMB
Manitoba Canada


Posted By: CHARLIE JEEP
Date Posted: 16 Aug. 2012 at 2:09pm
Hi Outback,
thanks for your message. The nice thing of LUZON RED is that itsn't a red color !!
Is like a "BOURDEAUX" , like a red wine color .....Wink
The other secrete is not wash the Jeep very often.........To be honest I don't like the very shine Jeeps.!
Thanks again
Charlie Saguier


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CJ-2A #114467 1947        Slat Grill #124991 1942        SPEN trailer 1948              


Posted By: Outback
Date Posted: 16 Aug. 2012 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by CHARLIE JEEP CHARLIE JEEP wrote:

The other secrete is not wash the Jeep very often.........To be honest I don't like the very shine Jeeps.!
 
That, my friend, is the creed of a true die-hard purist Jeeper. Clap
 
As I always say... "Jeeps are meant to be dirty".
 
You're right on the colour, it isn't really a red red. Wine is a good comparison.
 


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Dunc

46 CJ2A # 16021 (Oakley)
05 TJ Rubicon (Prairie Prowler)
M101CDN trailer
Westman Jeep Assn & FFCMB
Manitoba Canada


Posted By: CHARLIE JEEP
Date Posted: 17 Aug. 2012 at 8:43am
Many thanks for your comment.
The best Argentinean wine, "MALBEC" has exactly the same color......... Wink, but that's for another topic !
Cheers,
Charlie Saguier


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CJ-2A #114467 1947        Slat Grill #124991 1942        SPEN trailer 1948              


Posted By: Jeep Lady
Date Posted: 18 Aug. 2012 at 11:38am
Original Luzon Red paint.  The new paint is not the right color, but it looks good.  BTW, I have an original Nason 1948 and 1949 Willys color chart.  I am going to take it and see if I can match the Universal Beige to any modern automobile paint, at which time I would be happy to share that information.  I also would consider loaning (if you promise to return it to me) the original chart to anyone who is trying to match Universal Beige or any of the other colors on the charts.

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Posted By: Red48
Date Posted: 21 Aug. 2012 at 1:18pm
Here is one of the samples of the original red on my '48 from the inside right fender.

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48 CJ2A 175088


Posted By: Red48
Date Posted: 21 Aug. 2012 at 1:29pm


And here is a shot of the finished product.

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48 CJ2A 175088


Posted By: Red48
Date Posted: 21 Aug. 2012 at 1:32pm
The color sequence was: Luzon Red - Funky Green (see avatar) - Funky Yellow - Luzon (or as close as we could get it) Red.

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48 CJ2A 175088


Posted By: smfulle
Date Posted: 22 Aug. 2012 at 4:04pm
Red48, I like your red 48! My 48 also started at as a red, but is now a funky skyblue/rust color. Sy MY avitar. If I ever am brave enough to do the body work, I think it will go back to the red. It's staying scabby looking for now though.

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Stan
48 CJ2A (Grampa's Jeep)
59 Chevy 1/2 ton
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Posted By: AlaskaCJ2A
Date Posted: 05 Sep. 2012 at 12:40pm
Photo taken in July 1949.  My Grandpa repainted the Jeep a bright red the following year when he joined the Davis County Jeep Posse in northern Utah, as all members had their Jeeps painted the same color.  I reproduced the red during my resto as opposed to going back to the original Luzon.
 


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President, Alaska chapter of the IFFC






Posted By: combat
Date Posted: 05 Sep. 2012 at 8:27pm
Red48,  That is a beautiful jeep . Well done.!Clap

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Frank

GPW 96842
CJ2A 10399
48 CJ2a
49 cj2a
GP

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Posted By: Jeep Lady
Date Posted: 06 Sep. 2012 at 11:34am

Photo taken in early 1950's.



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Posted By: BOWJA01
Date Posted: 06 Sep. 2012 at 3:59pm
red48... that's a great looking ride... great job!

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Jim


Posted By: Red48
Date Posted: 07 Sep. 2012 at 12:49am
Thanks, guys. Right now it's in the final stages of a complete engine and tranny rebuild. Should be driving it any day now. Hopefully just in time for cooler weather. The last few days have been like a blast furnace down here.

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48 CJ2A 175088


Posted By: Jeep Lady
Date Posted: 07 Sep. 2012 at 2:55pm
Not quite finished yet, but Mom (now age 91) got to drive it.  She drove it home from the Willys dealership in July 1947 brand new.  Now here it is again "brand new" in the 2012 shiny version of Luzon Red.  
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Posted By: Tom G
Date Posted: 07 Sep. 2012 at 2:58pm
Hey Jeep Lady,
 
That looks fantastic.  Did you ever find a good subsitute for Universal Beige?  Looking to repaint my wheels this winter.
 
Thanks
 
Tom G


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1949 CJ2A #221763


Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 07 Sep. 2012 at 3:31pm
Nice!

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Sam

1946 CJ2A   15292 ACM    6678

1947 CJ2A 122031 ACM 111989

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Posted By: Jeep Lady
Date Posted: 07 Sep. 2012 at 4:01pm
Thanks guys.  I'm delighted.  Still a few little things to do and a few minor glitches to work out.  Muffler guy routed the exhaust system wrong for one thing.  Put the muffler under the gas tank and the tail pipe is just behind the tag and is cooking it!  Gonna do it over.  And the steering gear box has to be rebuilt.  It leaks at the sector shaft from having grease instead of oil in it in a previous life.
 
My version of Universal Beige was as close as I could get from memory, and it is off quite a bit.  I now have a Nason color chart with Universal Beige on it and will be happy to mail it to you if you will promise to mail it back.  Seeing and matching it in person is the only way I know of to get a really good match.  Computers distort color too much.  Just PM me an address if you would like to see the Nason color chart up close and personal.


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'46 CJ2A 72736 Rust Bucket



Posted By: F Bill
Date Posted: 07 Sep. 2012 at 5:03pm
Jeep Lady, that does look really nice.. Is it the angle of the photo or is your windshield leaning too far back? If it is it may cause you headaches fitting the top again. SOmewhere here is a measurement from the windshield to tha back of the tub, check Jpets top threads.....
 
And the old picture from the 50's is really good. Too bad you don't have a full view from then, it looks like a great stock jeep with all the right stuff on it.


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Posted By: Jeep Lady
Date Posted: 07 Sep. 2012 at 9:42pm
My windshield does seem to be leaning a bit further back than this pic of "The General".  Hope Jeff doesn't mind my borrowing his pic for comparison.  Good eye FBill.  You and a couple of others on here seem to see every little detail that most of the rest of us miss.  It may also have a slight warp to it, which doesn't show in this pic.  Probably will cause fitting problems.  I will confront that when I get to it.  Need some financial recovery time.  Paying someone else to do the work is pricey.  I'm going to make a "Reedkini" using jpet's directions and I can fit it to the Jeep as I go.  I may decide to make a whole top later, but one thing at a time.
 
We have searched and searched for a better picture of the Jeep when it was new, but nothing has turned up so far. 
 


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Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 08 Sep. 2012 at 8:40am
Not to dwell on your windshield, but something that I noticed in your photo, above, is a slight rearward bend in the upper part of the windshield frame, perhaps half way up near the round portion of the lollipop bracket/adjusting arm.  That was caused, most likely, by people using the windshield as a grab bar when getting in the Jeep.  As for the overall angle, to me it looks very close to jpet's except for that little bend.

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1946 CJ2A   15292 ACM    6678

1947 CJ2A 122031 ACM 111989

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Posted By: Jeep Lady
Date Posted: 08 Sep. 2012 at 1:10pm
I think you are right, samcj2a.  If you put a straight edge next to the windshield frame on the picture you can really see it.  Likely the source of the warped appearance I mentioned.  Also likely caused by the means you noted.  looks to me like it could be a fairly easy fix.  I'll point it out to the resto guy............just when I though the spending spree was over. Cry
 
If the rain clears I will get it out later and take some more pics.  Looks like the windshield warp starts lower on the other side and is more pronounced.  Without the bend it probably would look closer to the angle on  jpets.


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Posted By: Red48
Date Posted: 08 Sep. 2012 at 6:56pm
Whether your windshield is a little tweeked or not, Jeep Lady, it still looks like a sweet ride. And Mom looks pretty happy too.   

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48 CJ2A 175088


Posted By: Jeep Lady
Date Posted: 09 Sep. 2012 at 9:18am
Thanks, Red48.  It ought to look good.  I used pictures of your Jeep to show my resto man how a really nice CJ2a should look.  So thank you for setting the standard. Thumbs Up Still have a ways to go before mine can stand up to yours, but I'm working on it.  I'll be posting more pix when it's actually "done" (we know that's a fantasy). I just hijacked it for a few days while waiting for parts to rebuild the steering gear box.

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Posted By: Red48
Date Posted: 10 Sep. 2012 at 9:28pm
Well thanks for the endorsement, Jeep Lady, but I have to give credit where credit is due, and I could not have have done it without a lot of help from everyone here.    Yours is looking great. Can't wait to see her when she's "done".

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48 CJ2A 175088


Posted By: Tom G
Date Posted: 14 Sep. 2012 at 4:07pm
Thanks for the reply re Universal Beige.  Would like to match using your color card.  Unfortunately not on FB.  Can you send an email to mailto:twg02@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow - twg02@yahoo.com , and I will reply?  Happy to promise to return.

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1949 CJ2A #221763


Posted By: cgflyer
Date Posted: 16 Sep. 2012 at 9:18pm
Here is ours before she was tore down.



Posted By: yyz
Date Posted: 27 Sep. 2012 at 10:11pm
just got this 1948 cj2a and there a there are a few places that seem to have a bit of the original Luzon Red

under the hood



and a little on what is left of cross member that went under the missing tool box



there are a few other spots showing though the green paint that was sprayed over the whole jeep




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Posted By: TerryB
Date Posted: 29 Sep. 2012 at 3:59pm


Posted By: Wolfbrancher
Date Posted: 18 Jan. 2019 at 10:23am
Does anyone have a current Color Code for Luzon Red?  I took my PTO shroud to Sherwin Williams yesterday and they came up with this.  5AC-2826597-00 but now I'm wondering if that is correct, and if the PTO shroud was a different red.  It seems brighter (like Harvard red) than what I've seen from color ships of Luzon Red and a small portion of my firewall that shows the original color.

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D/spike
'47 CJ2A


Posted By: usmcpmi
Date Posted: 18 Jan. 2019 at 11:06am
Veronica was originally Luzon Red (I believe from the paint left showing)
Here she is now...


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'48 CJ2A/192948
'15 Wrangler Rubicon

Mark G.


Posted By: Steelyard Blues
Date Posted: 18 Jan. 2019 at 8:53pm
Veronica looks a little too red to me. Maybe it’s just the photo.

The underside of my Jeep had an amazing amount of original paint. I had a paint store scan it. The came up with a 99% match. I had a spray can made up and I think it is a perfect match.






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1947 CJ2A, Body & Frame: 106327, Engine: J109205, Tub and Tailgate: 97077. Originally Luzon Red

1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577


Posted By: Steelyard Blues
Date Posted: 18 Jan. 2019 at 8:56pm


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1947 CJ2A, Body & Frame: 106327, Engine: J109205, Tub and Tailgate: 97077. Originally Luzon Red

1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577


Posted By: dsc
Date Posted: 19 Jan. 2019 at 12:27pm
This is the closest we could get on one of our recent projects. 



Posted By: usmcpmi
Date Posted: 19 Jan. 2019 at 2:54pm
Steelyard  blues, Veronica does look a little too Red in pictures taken with my phone, especially when the background is bright. She looks better up close...Big smile

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'48 CJ2A/192948
'15 Wrangler Rubicon

Mark G.


Posted By: usmcpmi
Date Posted: 19 Jan. 2019 at 2:58pm


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'48 CJ2A/192948
'15 Wrangler Rubicon

Mark G.


Posted By: usmcpmi
Date Posted: 19 Jan. 2019 at 2:58pm
She looks darker in this pic....

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'48 CJ2A/192948
'15 Wrangler Rubicon

Mark G.


Posted By: Ol' Unreliable
Date Posted: 19 Jan. 2019 at 6:50pm
Originally posted by usmcpmi usmcpmi wrote:

She looks better up close...Big smile


Y'mean like from behind the wheel?  Big smile


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Posted By: usmcpmi
Date Posted: 19 Jan. 2019 at 9:49pm
Well, of course!  Big smile

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'48 CJ2A/192948
'15 Wrangler Rubicon

Mark G.


Posted By: willyt
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 9:51am
How mobile is the paint shop scanning equipment. The reason I ask is because the paint shop I contacted wants me to bring in a sample piece, min. 6”x6”. Now I see where Steelyard Blues paint shop scanned the bottom of his Jeep to obtain a color sample.



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1952 CJ3A (Lil'Green)
early M38A1(Ole Green)
1970 Jeepster Commando


Posted By: Steelyard Blues
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 4:09pm
When I said paint shop, I should have said supplier. They seemed to have the most up to date equipment and put a sample into a spray can. Their scanner was hand held.

The underside of the toolbox lid is often a good place for a sample.

The tailgate darkened up considerably compared the the prior photo I pasted of it freshly painted in the sun.

Micah



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1947 CJ2A, Body & Frame: 106327, Engine: J109205, Tub and Tailgate: 97077. Originally Luzon Red

1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577


Posted By: willyt
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 4:30pm
Thanks for the explanation Micah. I am going to replace a damaged section of the body and hope to get a sample from it. I will also check the tool box lid paint condition.

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1952 CJ3A (Lil'Green)
early M38A1(Ole Green)
1970 Jeepster Commando


Posted By: eestes1
Date Posted: 27 Jan. 2019 at 3:10pm

But wait, there's more...unfortunately it's  hidden under 4 other colors and lots of crud. This is a 48, Scabby, #197040.


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Posted By: drm101
Date Posted: 27 Jan. 2019 at 8:03pm
Here's mine. It was as close as I could find to Luzon Red at the local paint shop. They actually called it Maroon, but it's close.


Posted By: Steelyard Blues
Date Posted: 27 Jan. 2019 at 8:56pm
That looks about right. If you look at the paint codes I posted, one of them is Maroon. They may have come up with the exact same thing. Did they scan it?
 
Micah


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1947 CJ2A, Body & Frame: 106327, Engine: J109205, Tub and Tailgate: 97077. Originally Luzon Red

1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577



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