New Willys Support Vehicle
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Topic: New Willys Support Vehicle
Posted By: Doug Timme
Subject: New Willys Support Vehicle
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 2:29pm
I was a youngster during the height of the van craze. I was fascinated by the seemingly unlimited range of imagination involved with the custom vans. I recently picked this one up. It is a 75 B 200 short wheelbase. It has 92,000 original miles and still wears most of its original paint. Period correct slotted mags and orange shag carpeting sealed the deal . It has been sitting for quite a while, so the plan is to get it road worthy, then play with the interior. BTW, finding Willys parts is a breeze compared to trying to find parts for one of these things. http://s63.photobucket.com/user/DougTimme/media/IMG_0881_zpss0iirr4r.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s63.photobucket.com/user/DougTimme/media/IMG_0883_zpspz69a01k.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: mbullism
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 2:32pm
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Some moon or star shaped side windows and an A-Team graphics job and you are on your way, lol
Oh, yeah... don't forget the vented skylights  ------------- Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it... Welcome to 1930's Germany |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 2:57pm
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Shagadelic baaaaby!! My dad had two or three like that over the years as a land surveyor.....he had the window vans though. The last one would have been about that year.....had the opportunity to be in the passenger seat when we rolled it (to my side) when a guy ran a red light and hit us.....ah yeah, good times. Thing looks straight.....is it a 318? ------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 3:20pm
Those vented skylights go or around $400. these days for a nice NOS one , at least the one I would like (the one that looks like a hood scoop). Parts for these old vans, especially the custom stuff are priced through the roof. Chad, it has a 360 2 bbl with a 727.
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Posted By: mbullism
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 3:41pm
I had a 79 ramcharger with that 360 2bbl... you should have no lack of get up and go  ... thirsty, though------------- Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it... Welcome to 1930's Germany |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 3:48pm
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Been my experience some of the 318s are thirstier than the 360s......had a 318 Ramcharger that LOVED gas. You may be OK with the 360 (especially if there is a trailer in it's future) ------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: BlueBaron
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 3:56pm
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break out the 8 tracks! ------------- -Dave CJ-3A 1953 |
Posted By: RICKG
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 4:08pm
Scooby-Do where are you!!
 ------------- I never met a mule I didn't like! MC51986 "OD MULE" DOD 01-52 '50 CJ3A "Bucksnort". Keep 'em Rollin' |
Posted By: Freedom21
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 4:13pm
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Back in the day it was a Shaggin' wagon. Now days it's call a snatcher van. lol Diggin' the rims though. ------------- 09 JKU 02 KJ 66 CJ-5 48 CJ2A "Lefty" ?? M416 |
Posted By: sandusky
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 4:15pm
Sweet! A GoodFriend had a retired phone company van1ton . That had been converted with the usual Shag Carpet and 8 Track . A bunch of us spent many nights sleeping in it after a night of partying up Iowa City back in the 70's. Darn thing rode like a Lumber Wagon. Drank a lot of Schlitz Malt Liqour in that Van. From what I remember 
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Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 4:20pm
It does not have an 8 tack, but it does have an AM/FM/CB
I can imagine the parties that this thing has seen, that is why gutting the interior is a priority. I can only imagine the microbes nesting in the shag... Sort of reminds me of sleeping in the Kings Island Motel |
BlueBaron wrote:Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 4:23pm
I do think it would be cool to show up at a reunion with this pulling my CJ
 Maybe I will airbrush a mural of a CJ sitting by a lake in the mountains... Groovy baby. |
Posted By: Bill Norris
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 4:53pm
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Boy that does bring back some memories! If its not a Mopar muscle car, parts for anything else Pentestar seem to be hard to come by. The people we carpooled with to school's dad was an engineer at Chrysler. They had 5 kids and we had 4, so they always had a van. The last one they got before they moved to CA was a candy apple green metallic with aqua blue interior. I remember him saying when they unloaded it it had to be a mistake. The dealer said no and laughed...they still have it and its still hideous. Breaker, breaker for the 10-36 remember saying that a lot on the factory CB Bill ------------- Holy Toledo! Jeep Calendars and the Dispatcher Jeep magazine http://dispatchermagazine.com |
Posted By: 48cj2a
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 4:58pm
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That brings back memories...I had a 75 in High School that was gloss black with orange flames on the sides and orange thick shag carpet in the back. I'll have to dig up a picture and post it...My 318 was so cold blooded, I used to flood it all the time and get stranded until it all evaped. I could get the dog house off and be in the air cleaner in a matter of seconds. ------------- Art C USAF (Retired) 47 CJ2A #134955 Project 48 CJ2A #206759 62 L6226 Station Wagon #58167 10900 45 T3-C #191 Project http://www.bantamt3c.com http://www.48cj2a.com |
Posted By: 67charger
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 5:30pm
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Put a 440 in it. |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 5:39pm
| There is a guy on one of the van forums that is doing that right now. That might be something for down the road. |
Posted By: cjbilly
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 6:25pm
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My EARLY years- late 70's. Beside's my friends loving the picture of me with a mullet and dark hair, the airbrushed mural on the van really dates the picture. That van screams "PARTY TIME". 
------------- 1984 CJ7 1946 CJ2A- Supersonic motor 1948 CJ2A- Ramsey DP-1 shifter,PTO,front Ramsey MX200-R winch, Newgren lift 1955 Sears Trailer 1955 CJ5- PTO/belt drive,farm weight 1954 CJ3B- trencher,front blade |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 7:16pm
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I've got a 'Purple Shaft' small block cam straight out of the old Direct Connection catalog, still in the box when decide to build the motor. It's a Street Hemi spec cam for a small block....always wanted to hear that thing! ------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: 67charger
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 7:47pm
| I like those 70s vans, that grille always reminds me of my families motorhome back in the eighties. Im putting a big block in my 80s dodge truck right now. It will pull the cj around better haha. |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 8:37pm
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Ready for your second batch?........
  (not quite sure how much that first box of magazines contributed to this madness)  ------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: mbullism
Date Posted: 24 Mar. 2016 at 9:28pm
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lol... I see a star shaped window classic ------------- Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it... Welcome to 1930's Germany |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 29 Mar. 2016 at 10:03pm
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Posted By: birddog7
Date Posted: 30 Mar. 2016 at 1:10am
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Doug seems like a more like a Cheech and Cheeng , up in smoke van type ------------- Birddog 1945 CJ2A 1956 CJ3B 1946 CJ2A 1948 CJ2A 1948 CJ3A 1946 Bantam Trailer |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 02 Apr. 2016 at 5:03pm
| BTW, I really need a rear bumper for this van, if anyone knows of one (long shot, I know) give me a yell. |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 02 Apr. 2016 at 6:59pm
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Hand carved timbers were real big there for awhile... ------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 02 Apr. 2016 at 8:03pm
It has crossed my mind a few times...
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Posted By: Bill Norris
Date Posted: 12 Apr. 2016 at 2:39am
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So Doug, does this thing have the 'err, err, err, di, di, di di' starter in it? You know the one where you hope it catches or you have to wait for about 20 seconds for it to stop spinning. I always knew when our neighbor had trouble starting his Dodge work van in the mornings... Bill ------------- Holy Toledo! Jeep Calendars and the Dispatcher Jeep magazine http://dispatchermagazine.com |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 21 Apr. 2016 at 11:43pm
| Actually, it does not make that noise. I remember that noise, growing up my dad drove Dodges. |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 19 Jan. 2019 at 4:02pm
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Sooo... another one of these followed me home. This one is a real deal Dodge Street Van. It has a 440 and a full shagadellic interior. https://s63.photobucket.com/user/DougTimme/media/s-l1600_zpsttgffrfq.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: 48cj2a
Date Posted: 19 Jan. 2019 at 9:11pm
------------- Art C USAF (Retired) 47 CJ2A #134955 Project 48 CJ2A #206759 62 L6226 Station Wagon #58167 10900 45 T3-C #191 Project http://www.bantamt3c.com http://www.48cj2a.com |
Posted By: Ol' Unreliable
Date Posted: 19 Jan. 2019 at 11:28pm
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How are you finding vans that old that aren't rusted away to nothing? ------------- There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 3:19am
| Art, I just spit soda all over my screen. The green 75 is solid as a rock. It was built here in STL and never left. It was rust proofed when it was new and that is my only guess. The Yellow 76 is from the west coast. |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 3:47am
.....  .....(Art, me and Phyl both are still laughing!!....stupendous!!) ------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: 48cj2a
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 4:09am
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I just couldn't resist finding a period correct image and playing with it.
In hind sight now, I should have grabbed a couple ladies of the Reunion too. ------------- Art C USAF (Retired) 47 CJ2A #134955 Project 48 CJ2A #206759 62 L6226 Station Wagon #58167 10900 45 T3-C #191 Project http://www.bantamt3c.com http://www.48cj2a.com |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 4:19am
| Jean wants to know how you found a picture of me smiling.... |
Posted By: 48cj2a
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 4:22am
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Believe it or not its your Brick Award image from the Reunion Web Site ------------- Art C USAF (Retired) 47 CJ2A #134955 Project 48 CJ2A #206759 62 L6226 Station Wagon #58167 10900 45 T3-C #191 Project http://www.bantamt3c.com http://www.48cj2a.com |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 3:18pm
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All kidding aside, that is a GREAT looking truck especially considering its survivor status. (just wouldn't want to feed that 440.... or work on it either for that matter )------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 20 Jan. 2019 at 3:40pm
Yes, that would have done it...
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Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 21 Jan. 2019 at 12:10am
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Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 21 Jan. 2019 at 12:11am
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Posted By: Ol' Unreliable
Date Posted: 21 Jan. 2019 at 12:12am
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So that's been hiding somewhere since about 1977? Talk about your shaggin' wagon! ------------- There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable |
Posted By: 48cj2a
Date Posted: 21 Jan. 2019 at 1:27am
Groovy Man I'll have to look for pictures of my 1977 Dodge Tradesman 100 Van from High School. I had Orange Shag from Floor to Roof
------------- Art C USAF (Retired) 47 CJ2A #134955 Project 48 CJ2A #206759 62 L6226 Station Wagon #58167 10900 45 T3-C #191 Project http://www.bantamt3c.com http://www.48cj2a.com |
Posted By: otto
Date Posted: 21 Jan. 2019 at 5:19am
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That is an awesome time machine!
------------- 47 CJ2A w/fuel injected boat engine 48 CJ2A 64 Ford Econoline Travelwagon If you can't get there in a Jeep, get a motorcycle! |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 21 Jan. 2019 at 5:58am
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Interior looks great....I wouldn't get close to it with a UV light though! ------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: 67charger
Date Posted: 21 Jan. 2019 at 11:58am
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That 440 is clean in there, has it been rebuilt or still original? I have a 78 400 bb in my dodge truck, and it is still original "stock." You can run 87 octane in the late 70s stock dodge bb's because they had no compression. Nice van. |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 21 Jan. 2019 at 2:37pm
The carpeting was redone about four years ago and the previous owner promised me that there was no DNA in it.... The engine has been rebuilt and pepped up a little...
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Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 02 Mar. 2019 at 9:35pm
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I was finally able to reunite the green van with its engine and trans this morning. The CJ is starting to feel neglected... http://s63.photobucket.com/user/DougTimme/media/IMG_3304_zpswcnhnvwj.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s63.photobucket.com/user/DougTimme/media/IMG_3307_zpssmf4htll.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: 67charger
Date Posted: 02 Mar. 2019 at 9:42pm
| Is that a b&m weighted flex plate? |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 02 Mar. 2019 at 10:19pm
| It is B&M, but not weighted. Just a solid SFI plate. Everything on the trans end needed to be neutral balance. The block is the original 360, but with a forged rotating assy. It is now a 408 with a roller cam, performer heads and Holley EFI. |
Posted By: 67charger
Date Posted: 02 Mar. 2019 at 10:43pm
| Wow that's going to be a decent support vehicle. I put a 400 in my willys tow vehicle (w250). What did you do with the 440? |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 03 Mar. 2019 at 1:54am
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That's a different van....it's REALLY shagadelic around Doug's place. That 360 will be a boss! Doug's gonna get to know ALL his gas stations in the area! Cool stuff !! ------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 03 Mar. 2019 at 2:26pm
| Yes, the 408 went in to the green van at the beginning of this thread. It had a 360 2 bbl when I got it. I could never make the thing run right. I went through several carbs (Holley 2 bbls), even broke down and took it to a carb "guru", still just never ran right. Then one day it was sitting there running and started making a terrible noise. Something fell through the engine and poked a hole in the #1 piston. Then the rebuild got out of control to where it is now ; 490 horse, 520 lbs. |
Posted By: Bill Norris
Date Posted: 03 Mar. 2019 at 3:00pm
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I Dig It. Amazing they both survived in such great condition. We used to carpool to school with a family who's dad was a Chrysler engineer with a corporate lease. They had 5 kids, so they always got a van. Their dad asked us for input on the colors one year. I said black with a red interior, very groovy. He said the only way to get that color combo was in a Street Van. Their mom would have NO part of that. He liked the idea though ordered an Aspen in those colors. So instead of a black van, he ordered green. The dealership screwed up the order. When they went to pick it up, it was candy apple green with an aqua blue interior. It was hideous. He was in a pinch so he had to accept it. I think the street van would have been less embarrassing to chauffeur grade school kids around in. Bill
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Posted By: mikec4193
Date Posted: 04 Mar. 2019 at 12:47pm
 Back in the late 1970s and into the 1980s my dad ran a couple of those old tradesman Vans...I spent many a weekend riding shotgun with him as his helper/gopher...seeing yours brings it all back again...thanks for posting....------------- I am the squirrel.... |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 10 Mar. 2019 at 12:18am
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That is a cool picture. I like looking at old pictures. I got my serpentine drive mocked up today. It sure is pretty, too bad no one will ever see it. https://s63.photobucket.com/user/DougTimme/media/IMG_3327_zpso9ymdmfw.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Ol' Unreliable
Date Posted: 12 Mar. 2019 at 2:22am
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Yeah, that's kinda fancy for something nobody will ever see. Hope it works as nice as it looks. ------------- There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 25 Mar. 2020 at 1:17pm
| Well, it started and moved under its own power for the first time in over two years. Still some details to work out, but it was good to hear it run. |
Posted By: 48cj2a
Date Posted: 25 Mar. 2020 at 1:24pm
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Congrats Doug
Sure wish I was home to work on something...Just did a Skype Call with one of my Co-Workers and they are now off until April 7th - I could really put a dent in some projects with a Month off to work on stuff. For now I'm sitting in my room collecting Per Diem and updating the Bantam Page and and a huge refresh of my PTO page (a few more factory documents to upload and it will be done). ------------- Art C USAF (Retired) 47 CJ2A #134955 Project 48 CJ2A #206759 62 L6226 Station Wagon #58167 10900 45 T3-C #191 Project http://www.bantamt3c.com http://www.48cj2a.com |
Posted By: rocnroll
Date Posted: 25 Mar. 2020 at 1:47pm
I heard it, I heard it !! I know that has to feel good.  ------------- '47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common" |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 25 Mar. 2020 at 7:08pm
| It is at the trans shop right now. It moved forwards and backwards, but would not shift. I had the trans rebuilt and it sat in the garage for nearly a year. Hopefully, it is just a little sticky from sitting dry for that long. As soon as that is figured out, the shop that built the engine can put the final tune in the EFI. then, the fun will start. |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 02 May 2020 at 4:20pm
Still working out a few bugs, but it is running pretty strong. |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 4:58pm
 If you look in the background, you can see my poor neglected CJ.
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Posted By: Michaeltru
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 11:10pm
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Cool. Was looking to buy one of those vans back in the ‘70s. ------------- Mike in AZ |
Posted By: otto
Date Posted: 09 May 2020 at 12:26am
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Nice, do you plan to tow your jeep with the van? ------------- 47 CJ2A w/fuel injected boat engine 48 CJ2A 64 Ford Econoline Travelwagon If you can't get there in a Jeep, get a motorcycle! |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 09 May 2020 at 6:16pm
Maybe. I think that would be cool. The yellow one has a 440. Towing with that one would be an expensive proposition. I am curious what the gas mileage will be like with the fuel injected small block in the green one. Still working on "drivability" issues with it. BTW, "wire it up, fire it up" and "self learning/tuning"...not so far
. I probably shouldnt be so hard on it, this was not just an engine swap, I threw a lot of new stuff at it, mainly...everything. |
Posted By: otto
Date Posted: 09 May 2020 at 7:11pm
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Cool, I trailer my 2a with my clapped out E250. It’s my home away from home on a lot of weekends at motorcycle events and Jeep gatherings. Not very shagadelic, more utilitarian. ------------- 47 CJ2A w/fuel injected boat engine 48 CJ2A 64 Ford Econoline Travelwagon If you can't get there in a Jeep, get a motorcycle! |
Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 11 May 2020 at 3:12pm
I would like to do that with mine too. My green one is going to be more utilitarian than shag. My plan for it is a cruise / swap meet vehicle.
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Posted By: Doug Timme
Date Posted: 25 May 2020 at 4:47pm
OK, how many of you have ever had to make "curtains" for a vehicle? I found this cool vintage material to make curtains for the rear windows of the yellow van. |