How does it compare with, say John Deere yellow or safety yellow?

 

I'd especially love to hear from anyone with a Normandy Blue jeep with Autumn Yellow wheels - a photo would be wonderful.

 

Thanks.

 

I just bought two different sets of color chips that I don't have yet.  They both have Autumn Yellow on them.   The photos of these paint chip pages show that, where Michigan Yellow is a fairly bright lemon-like color, the Autumn Yellow, as the name suggests, tends toward a light, sort of muddy orange.  It is not as dark as the orange that is called Sunset Red for which I have never seen period paint chips.  (I had 11 year original painted Sunset Red wheels, but that was in 1957 and does little good now!)  I'll be glad to email some photos of all the paint chips I have when I get them. 

 Here is an original page from the paint chip book, of the 5 original colors, again, the scan is only a variable reference, however, this original i have is remarkable to see in hand, it has been well preserved...low

 

 

I'll be glad to share what I get.  Sean is correct that Web colors - for that matter, any colors - you see on a computer monitor, are not likely to be accurate in matching any given color.  As an example, the color chart that Low posted does not do justice to Harvest tan on my monitor.  (It shows up way too gray on my monitor even though the paint chip page could be perfect.)  So, I think that what I can do when I get my two additonal paint chip pages is to compare those two and a third one I already have to photo prints that I would make of one or all.  When I get a visual match to my eye between the printed copy and the original paint chip(s), then I can provide that printed copy to you.  Otherwise, you'll be at the mercy of my scanner and your monitor and the high likelihood that their calibrations will be wildly different.  This way you'll only be at the mercy of my eye and however close to the original the color chip is! 

 

and Sam is correct, however i will say that this past fall i had the remains of an early column shift that was Harvest Tan, and out of curiosity, i found a nice clean spot on the lower firewall area in the engine bay, and i placed this chart chip next to it, and to the naked eye, it WAS VERY difficult to see differences between the 2..mind you there were aging differences, but the chip was dead on....low

 

Oh well, in the immortal words of Chief Dan George to Jose Wales, " I will endeaver to persevere"

 

Sean did an exhaustive color match on the harvest tan. He used a number of samples (physical) and found "the perfect match" I'm sure the other colors could be done if the same due dilegence was used as Sean did. This would require the same type of physical samples he used. If someone did this for the color they need, it would bennefit the entire 2a community. Maybe Sean will post how he got there, or a link to that post.

 

With the difficulties in getting a good match on the colors, I wonder how many of us have true 100% restorations, how many of us have 'close enough' restorations, or how many just have replications.  I would guess that most of us have working rebuilts.  I know I'd like for mine to be in the 95%+ restored range just because I found it in all original condition.  Since it will be going back to work as a ranch jeep, I don't feel the need to make it exact.

 

your hunt for the the perfect match is very much appreciated, it is the standard for me. The other colors will call on others to do the same.

If anyone can isolate their true color from some under a bracket or in the tranny tunnel, this needs to be saved for others that want to get the color right. Sean my hat is off to you for the work you have done for harvest tan.

Top photo was the original of the inside of one of my wheels.

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I finally gave up trying to have that color matched to acquire a useable formula. However, with a referall from another owner, I did use Beachwood Canvas's Autumn Yellow. It takes one quart to do 5 wheels with thinning. This paint is also mineral spirit based. It was the best match to my original yellow. For what I paid trying to get that color formula I could have bought six quarts from Beachwood. 

Howard 

 

My tub color, Pasture Green , we started at the 'replacement' code and tweeked it from there. At least that is what I was told by my paint mixing guy. I have forgotten exactly what I had done but when I got close I actually shot the mixed paint on actual parts to compare the components in various light conditions against original painted parts until I felt good about what was happening.

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eric

 

I thought the paint sample chips at the beginning of this post were only for body colors.

I may get shot at saying this, but I believe the Autumn Yellow referenced on those chips were for a Willys Wagon, which was painted in two tone to simulate a 'woody' appearance.

 

Randy

 

I also believe the 'Universal Beige' color is incorrectly labeled as the wheel color for the Luzon Red Jeeps.

 

Sean,

In all of your Willys documentation, where is the list of actual names of the wheel colors?

 

Thanks, Randy

 

Photo below of an unrestored Pasture Green Jeep w/ faded yellow solid rim next to mine.   A small amount of polish to remove the oxidation and it matched my rim exactly.

 

 

WFB 

I believe we did use the same color wheel paint from Beachwood.   The original post of the Barret-Jackson 2A shows what I believe is the wrong color, which is what is shown in the color chips as Autumn Yellow.   Computer variations and camera settings allow for most of this.   I went back and reviewed many photos.  My concern is still the same....if you are using the Autumn Yellow as shown in the paint chip sheets, it's the wrong color.  That's what I think happen to the person who restored the BJ 2A.

 

Again, why list one wheel color....where's Sunset Red.....where's Universal Beige for the Luzon Red body color??    I would think a Willys Salesman's data sheet would list the correct body/wheel paint names.    I believe the correct name for the Luzon Red body paint should be Wake Ivory for the rim.   I also believe further investigation needs to be done and the 2A History page needs to be updated.

 

Well spoken. I see  an "issue" 

 

Hard to tell from the photo.  Have you had the spare off of the carrier?

It may have some better samples of paint that haven't been exposed to

the elements on the back side of the wheel.   The best samples I have found in the past have been when I removed the tire and tube.  The inside of the rims may have some untouched patches of original paint.

 

Randy 

Jim