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Topic: Reference photos
Posted By: sean
Subject: Reference photos
Date Posted: 15 Aug. 2007 at 6:18pm
Period photos of new CJ2As for parts reference. We've seen these photos before, but scattered about among different topics. Thanks in advance to those who contributed these:
Bill Oakes '45, photo taken '45:
A '46 or '47:
Another '46 or '47
A '47+ just off the assembly line:
And some parts (probably '46) enroute to assembly:
Sean
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Posted By: Bob W
Date Posted: 30 Oct. 2007 at 10:05pm
I think I found the date this photo was taken. The photo can be found on the Toledo-Lucas County Public Library web-site where it is described as "Michael, King of Romania", "Willys-Overland", and "1948".
I stumbled on a newpaper article from The Lima News, March 24, 1948 that states "Former King Michael of Romania has accepted an invitation to visit the Willys-Overland jeep plant in Toledo, O., Mar. 21. Michael will be driven from Detroit to Toledo in a new jeep station wagon for the visit."
That places this photo near the end of March 1948.
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Posted By: GaryArf
Date Posted: 31 Oct. 2007 at 2:43am
The interesting thing is that this photo shows a Jeep with NO headlight trim rings, NO seat cushions.
One other thing, what is the component on the drivers side, highlighted in the white "gray" suited guy at the drivers side.????...Is that the mirror?
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Posted By: Bob W
Date Posted: 31 Oct. 2007 at 10:36am
It does seem strange the seat cushions are not installed. It sure would be easier to put them on with the seat frame on the bench. The mirror appears to be turned sideways and highlighted by the trench-coat.
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: 28 Dec. 2007 at 4:11pm
For your viewing pleasure:
A 1946 CJ2A Sales Brochure. Full size, 7 pages, hi resolution, 4MB PDF file
http://www.cj-2a.com/documentation/willys/sales/CJ2A_46_sales_lit.pdf">1946 CJ2A Sales Brochure
Enjoy!
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Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 28 Dec. 2007 at 5:03pm
Sean,
Thanks for sharing that as a pdf.
On another note, looking at this thread again, Bob Westerman's "Michael, King of Romania" 1948 photo of the 2A above appears to show a factory installed "Willys lean." I suppose it could be a result of the camera angle, but I don't think so. The only non-symetrical vertical spacing that I see between left and rigt sides is the distances from the tires to the fenders. What do you think?
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Posted By: Howard
Date Posted: 28 Dec. 2007 at 5:05pm
Very Cool, Thanks!
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Posted By: Jus*Jack
Date Posted: 28 Dec. 2007 at 6:20pm
Thanks Sean! That's a nice brochure!
...and Sam, I noticed that same "lean" too, but if you'll notice the paint stripes on the floor, they are off-vertical (in the 2-dimensional photo), and that would lead me to belive that what we're actually seeing is a mild perspective distortion. Sigh.
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Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 28 Dec. 2007 at 6:42pm
You're right Jack, there's a vanishing point to the right in that photo. The front bumper is not parallel to the fenders or anything else in the body.
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: 29 Dec. 2007 at 4:42pm
samcj2a wrote:
On another note, looking at this thread again, ... the 2A above appears to show a factory installed "Willys lean." ... What do you think? | That's cause there's more tire on one side.
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Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 29 Dec. 2007 at 4:45pm
I think I see in the Parts List that there are different numbers for the left and right tires!
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Posted By: Bruce W
Date Posted: 29 Dec. 2007 at 5:32pm
They did that to correct the lean. That one must have been assembled wrong-side-to. That's why it's been pulled off the line. BW
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Posted By: Bob W
Date Posted: 07 June 2009 at 11:47pm
I found another news article in the April 1, 1948 Toledo Times. It talks about King Michael's visit to Willys-Overland. I did go to the microfilm for this article and the date was correct
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: 05 Nov. 2009 at 3:42pm
Some interesting photos of 2 different early '45s. Photo quality isn't great, but good to see some details. All link to larger versions.
First one has a bumper weight:
http://www.cj-2a.com/documentation/vintage_photos/VE-45-2l.jpg">
This one has a capstan winch. Compare this to Bill Oakes '45 at the beginning of this thread. They look alike !
http://www.cj-2a.com/documentation/vintage_photos/VE-45-1l.jpg">
http://www.cj-2a.com/documentation/vintage_photos/VE-45-3l.jpg">
Sean
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Posted By: rocketeer
Date Posted: 23 Nov. 2009 at 12:44am
Also a nice look at the front license plate holder.
Larry
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Posted By: Joe DeYoung
Date Posted: 05 Dec. 2010 at 4:35pm
Link to some pretty interesting photos
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l?imgurl=f0789f12e5230eb2&q=jeep%20source:life&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djeep%2Bsource:life%26hl%3Den%26tbs%3Disch:1 - http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l?imgurl=f0789f12e5230eb2&q=jeep%20source:life&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djeep%2Bsource:life%26hl%3Den%26tbs%3Disch:1
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Posted By: kilroy
Date Posted: 05 Dec. 2010 at 8:18pm
Thank you, Joe.
I really enjoy these old pics.
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Posted By: sibaropsis
Date Posted: 05 Dec. 2010 at 10:54pm
Those old Life Magazine photos were taken in my "backyard" along the old Anza Trail, and more specifically up Palm Canyon from Borrego Springs to Terwilliger (southeast of Anza) in Anza Borrego State Park. Plug these coordinates into Google Maps: 33.42204, -116.4768. They probably went up the Sage Road from Hemet to Highway 79 where Berg's Roadhouse was located. I'm not sure you can still make the drive up or down Palm Canyon anymore. I did it in the mid-1980s (up canyon in a Toyota Truck) and it was an adventure. The 1949 trip was coming down canyon which is usually easier, but looks like they had fair amount of water running through the canyon, so there could have been some hairy washouts in a number of areas.
Steve
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Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 22 Feb. 2013 at 4:37pm
Here is a Time Life photo of a '45 captioned July 1945 showing interior details.
http://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/postwar-jeep/BwGJayTrCYzHjQ?hl=en" rel="nofollow - http://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/postwar-jeep/BwGJayTrCYzHjQ?hl=en
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Posted By: Joe DeYoung
Date Posted: 22 Feb. 2013 at 4:47pm
Cool pic. I wish it included the serial number plate. I saw the other photos that go with this one, and the fire wall doesn't have a serial number tag which indicates that it's a very early 45.
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Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 22 Feb. 2013 at 4:51pm
Here is a cropped version of the photo above clearly showing the vinyl passenger seat upholstery.
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Posted By: russnj
Date Posted: 22 Feb. 2013 at 6:05pm
This one has the serial number plate but you can't read it.
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Posted By: F Bill
Date Posted: 22 Feb. 2013 at 6:34pm
I wonder if that one could be Bill Oakes jeep. It seems to be a pretty popular photo subject, and has the same accessories if I am remembering right.
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Posted By: samcj2a
Date Posted: 22 Feb. 2013 at 7:23pm
F Bill wrote:
I wonder if that one could be Bill Oakes jeep. It seems to be a pretty popular photo subject, and has the same accessories if I am remembering right. | No capstan winch!
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Posted By: F Bill
Date Posted: 22 Feb. 2013 at 7:26pm
That's right, I saw Ag Weight and thought winch. I better stop posting till the dentist's novacaine wears off.
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Posted By: TeddieG
Date Posted: 17 Aug. 2019 at 9:28pm
Great information! When I was around 5, I went to work with Daddy, who worked in the OK oil fields. It was such great fun for me! I remember the smell of the canvas top and siding.
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Posted By: Willysaurio
Date Posted: 03 Sep. 2019 at 1:57pm
hola! estamos restaurando un cj2a 15539 cuyo color original es HARVET TAN, alguien podria indicarme como es ese color? algun lugar al que pueda acceder a esta info o a una foto con algo de fidelidad
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Posted By: Oakes
Date Posted: 16 Sep. 2020 at 6:35pm
Actually it could be the same one. Mine did come with a bumper weight. I wonder if this show came before the jeep was delivered at the factory to my owners. They could have taken pics of the jeep with the bumper weight and then put on the Capstan winch. The kid in the photos said they were suprised by the inclusion of the capstan winch.
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Posted By: lowenuf
Date Posted: 17 Sep. 2020 at 1:52am
Oakes wrote:
Actually it could be the same one. Mine did come with a bumper weight. I wonder if this show came before the jeep was delivered at the factory to my owners. They could have taken pics of the jeep with the bumper weight and then put on the Capstan winch. The kid in the photos said they were suprised by the inclusion of the capstan winch.
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The Cesor Farm debut was July 18, 1945
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Posted By: Oakes
Date Posted: 17 Sep. 2020 at 2:45am
How many shows did they do like this???
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Posted By: lowenuf
Date Posted: 17 Sep. 2020 at 3:22pm
It was the only one that I am aware of..
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Posted By: Oakes
Date Posted: 17 Sep. 2020 at 3:56pm
I was told by the second owner, who was the caretaker of the property of the first owner, that Willys would occasionally call them up to do a show that was in the area. They would take the vehicles clean them up and bring them to the shows. Then they would be given back. He would assist in getting the vehicles and giving them back. This care taker also had a garage he ran. I surmised that since there was no interstate transit system yet that this was a great way to have vehicles in the area where shows were. The gent died so I cannot ask anything further. His son died also but he has other sons.
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