BODY BOLTS-MOUNTING
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Topic: BODY BOLTS-MOUNTING
Posted By: F Bill
Subject: BODY BOLTS-MOUNTING
Date Posted: 16 Sep. 2008 at 5:26pm
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http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2807328380037238516XOgoFr"> If you click on them it should take you to the webshots album where they are stored and you can look at the pic full size. Note there is no mention of the shoulder bolts used on the rear , and the different washer part numbers of the same size. Can anyone tell me what the difference is in washer 5455 and 50921?------------- If you haven't checked out the tech FAQ section, go to: http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/tech-faq_forum57.html for a lot of great stuff you need to know!! |
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Posted By: bkreutz
Date Posted: 16 Sep. 2008 at 6:13pm
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Bill, Which parts book is that? I have a '49 and it lists flat washer 52819 for the 3/8" bolts and 53735 for the 5/16" bolts. Also it lists the 54132 BOLT, step as going in the #5 position. It also breaks down the bolt, nut, and washers individually by position 1-6. ------------- Gale 47 CJ2A 142857 47 Bantam T3-C 16271 Photo page http://bkreutz.smugmug.com/" rel="nofollow - http://bkreutz.smugmug.com/ |
Posted By: F Bill
Date Posted: 16 Sep. 2008 at 7:05pm
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It is the 1945 book. ------------- If you haven't checked out the tech FAQ section, go to: http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/tech-faq_forum57.html for a lot of great stuff you need to know!! |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: 17 Sep. 2008 at 2:15pm
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The books all "tell a different story". You often need to reference
all 3 of them to got the whole picture. Check the parts database for
2nd. & 3rd editions for full details. Culled from all lists (click to enlarge): http://www.cj-2a.com/parts/Body/tub/body_bolts-1l.jpg"> ------------- http://www.CJ-2A.com" rel="nofollow - CJ2A Data site http://www.nulltime.com/jeep" rel="nofollow - 2A #16279 |
Posted By: F Bill
Date Posted: 17 Sep. 2008 at 4:24pm
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Nice work, Sean! Can you tell me what the different flat washers are for in position 3A and 3B?? ------------- If you haven't checked out the tech FAQ section, go to: http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/tech-faq_forum57.html for a lot of great stuff you need to know!! |
Posted By: bkreutz
Date Posted: 17 Sep. 2008 at 8:11pm
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Bill, I'm going to guess that's because of the fuel tank, 3a wouldn't have a flat washer under the head for clearance reasons, while 3b wouldn't matter since it's in the toolbox. (mind you this is just a guess  )------------- Gale 47 CJ2A 142857 47 Bantam T3-C 16271 Photo page http://bkreutz.smugmug.com/" rel="nofollow - http://bkreutz.smugmug.com/ |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: 20 Sep. 2008 at 3:46pm
Bill, sorry, I missed your question back then!
There's a captive nut in the hat channel, this shorter (1") screw threads into the hat channel nut w/only 1 flat washer. Technically, this might be considered a "screw", not a "bolt". Sean ------------- http://www.CJ-2A.com" rel="nofollow - CJ2A Data site http://www.nulltime.com/jeep" rel="nofollow - 2A #16279 |
Can you tell me what the different flat washers are for in position 3A and 3B??Posted By: bkreutz
Date Posted: 20 Sep. 2008 at 4:34pm
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Well, that explains a lot, didn't know there was a captive nut there originally (that section of hat channel was missing on mine. I ended up using a carriage bolt on mine. Not going to change it now though.
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Posted By: Ritt
Date Posted: 20 Sep. 2008 at 5:01pm
You guys are somethin' 
I'm almost at the same point. two more coats of paint on the tube and it goes on the frame.
Thanks, ------------- Rit 1948 2A, "RAISIN COOKIES THAT LOOK LIKE CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES ARE THE MAIN REASON I HAVE TRUST ISSUES" |
Posted By: 47goDevil
Date Posted: 25 Oct. 2008 at 4:26pm
| Thank You Sean ! |
Posted By: gearhead
Date Posted: 03 Aug. 2010 at 2:33pm
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Hi Guys. I'm new to the forum, and here's my first question.
The frame I'm using on my 2a doesn't have holes in it at station one for the through bolt. I do however have a short bracket that I think connects between the side of the frame and the vertical support attached to the firewall/kickboard of the body tub.
Were some of these jeeps made using only these brackets and no through bolts at station 1?
I'm tempted to drill the frame to use through bolts, as described in Sean's post (nice post, Sean!), but am wondering if there is a more correct way to attach the body tub on this particular frame. seems that if there aren't any holes in the frame, there's a reason for it.
If there wasn't any through bolt used at station 1 on this jeep, and only the side brackets were used, then what would hold the anti-squeak pad in place between the body and the frame?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Posted By: Hamhog
Date Posted: 04 Aug. 2010 at 12:50am
 It's a little small but the bolt goes through the rubber placed between the frame and bracket.------------- Dave |
Posted By: lowenuf
Date Posted: 04 Aug. 2010 at 1:31am
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Sean's pic is deceiving, his #1 is actually referencing the tabs that stick down the side..... ------------- 45 #10012 45 #10033 ACM #47 45 #10163 ACM #188 57 CJ5 Dauntless V6, T-18 4-speed, D-44 rear/D-30 front, D-20 twin stick |
Posted By: gearhead
Date Posted: 12 Oct. 2010 at 2:56pm
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You are right, Lowenuf. When I zoomed in in his picture I can see the tabs. That answers that question. Thank you! I only have on of the "tabs", and it is not attached to the body. Looks like it was spot-welded in place (there are four dimples that look like broken spot welds). So far, I haven't seen that little tab/bracket listed anywhere as an available part. Do any of you know it they are available, and from whom? Worst case, I can make a functional replacement, but won't look absolutely correct to anyone who gets down there and looks closely. Would prefer to get a correct one, if anyone knows where they can be procured. Glad I checked with you guys before drilling holes in my framefor through bolts. Thanks again for the help! gearhead
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Posted By: porsskar
Date Posted: 13 Oct. 2010 at 7:05am
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Further to the issue bolts, screws & shims etc I have a question related to shipments from USA.
As most overseas/european CJ2a restorers are easily getting only metric screws etc in local shops what about the following?
Is there a suppliers who would sell a " total body/chassis" package of bolts, nuts etc?
I do not think anyone would mind if the package would have surplus 2-8 bolts extra so as to fit a wider range of years of production e.g. 1946-1950...this would anable all "connoseurs to have the right length of bolt" for just his/her cj2a jeep.
At leas I would like to buy a package for my 1947 cj2a if thyere would be a supplier who could supply other cj2a products in same shipment. In fact this would save a lot of time. ------------- Sten from Finland 1947 CJ2A serial 94118 1949 8NAN Ford tractor 1965 Mahoghany Snipe FIN 14018 |
Posted By: bkreutz
Date Posted: 13 Oct. 2010 at 5:50pm
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I don't know of any "bolt packages" for 2A's, I have seen them for WWII Jeeps though. This question has come up before and I don't recall any post that nailed down a supplier. The WWII sets would satisfy most of the size requirements, but the finish would be "wrong" (if that's even a concern) and the tend to be pricey because of the "correct" head markings and finishes. I guess you could go through the Parts Book and make up a list, I've often thought about that, but then contemplated the time that would be required and gave up. Of course for me, SAE bolts are only a short drive to the supply house. In the end, I don't have a good answer for you.
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Posted By: Night0wl
Date Posted: 18 Oct. 2010 at 7:31pm
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Gale,
Sean has already started the list...just look at his picture. All you need to do is add the proper lettering to each line indicating the letter head stamp for each bolt and your done! Simple! ------------- Night0wl "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose" Jim Elliot 45 CJ-2A http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/my-45-project_topic9190_page1.html" rel="nofollow - My Project |
Posted By: Schute
Date Posted: 12 Feb. 2011 at 4:11pm
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I guess I am still a little confused (nothing new for me)... I understand that in Sean's picture above, station 1 is pointing to the tabs that mount the body to the side of the frame. My confusion is with the hole in the hat channel in that same area. It seems like there should be a bolt that holds the hat channel to the body but wouldn't that prevent the hat channel from sitting flat on the frame? |
Posted By: 47goDevil
Date Posted: 12 Feb. 2011 at 4:29pm
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you shouldn't need any bolts to hold the support bracket to the body, it's welded . if it isn't it should be. |
Posted By: Schute
Date Posted: 12 Feb. 2011 at 4:40pm
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47goDevil,
Thanks. Nothing is welded yet I am getting ready to install all new hat channels. I knew that they were welded in the front but why is there a hole through the channel and the body?
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Posted By: ralf
Date Posted: 13 Feb. 2011 at 1:42am
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I turned my tub upside down and then laid the frame on it upside down and then lined up the frame holes with the hat channels holes and the body holes. Then when you weld you hat channels everything will be lined up.
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