The Resurrection of CJ2-26 |
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Fred Coldwell
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Nothing can be done in a day . . . . Recently I received a pair of the community lending-library custom split rivet installation pliers from nofender, and I was eager to install the olive drab welt along the top of the painted 9 slot MB grill used on CJ2-26. I had a MB/GPW grille welt kit on hand from a trusted supplier, so last week I gathered the necessary tools and got to work. About three-quarters of the way to completion I counted the remaining brass split rivets and discovered I was short two of them. My grill needed 19 split rivets, as used on CJ2-09, but there were only 17 in the packet from the supplier. Half a day was spent driving to two local hardware stores and scouring the internet, trying to find just one Denver supplier who carried them in stock. No such luck. The next morning a light bulb lit and I drove to a local Tandy Leather Co. store on the theory they might have them in stock for leather workers. They had every type of rivet imaginable except the one I wanted; no luck there either. So I ended up ordering a packet of 25 brass split rivets from McMaster-Carr to get the two additional ones I needed. Of course, that put off completing this relatively simple task for 5 more days. Well today the additional brass split rivets arrived on my front porch and I finally completed the installation. Here is the end (or should I say top) result: Its difficult to show the welt from all angles, but this top view shows much of the finished installation. Yea!! I emailed the supplier and suggested he check the welt kits he had in stock to see if they too were short two split rivets. He forwarded my email to the vendor, who quickly responded to me and explained that the MB and GPW both use only 17 split rivets to attach the welt to the radiator guard, not 19 as I needed. The reason is grounding: two of the welt holes along the top of the MB/GPW grille use 2 small bolts to bond the tinned inside front of the hood to the radiator guard. The hoods on CJ2-09 and CJ2-26 are not grounded to jeep or its radiator guard, so split rivets are used in place of small grounding bolts in the last 2 holes, hence 19 brass split rivets in total. The many slight differences of the preproduction civilian jeeps from the military MB/GPW and from the production model CJ-2A are why no project on the CJ-2 can be completed in one day. It just goes to show you, it's always something — if it ain't one thing, it's another.
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Happy Jeep Trails,
Fred Coldwell Denver, CO 1944 CJ2-09 - X-33 1945 CJ2-26 - X-50 |
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LuzonRed47
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Fred, this is the same attention to detail that makes your jeep history books such valuable references. Fascinating stuff on hood-welt rivets. Thanks for keeping us posted on your project.
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CJ2A #140275 "Ziggie" (purchased new by my dad in 1947)
ACM #124334 CJ3A windshield, Warn Overdrive 1953 Strick M100 trailer Serial #18253 |
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Nick_
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Your attention to detail is a great inspiration to me. Thank you for posting, looking forward to watching further progress.
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wheelie
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Yep. Keep chipping away. These details are great and feed our thirst for all things jeep. Thank you.
The only part of your most recent post I would contest is that the phrase is not "If it's not one thing, it's another." I've always heard it as "If it's not one thing, it's her mother."
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swmoboy
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Good job! Want to follow your progress.
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Rick G
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So, in the interest of furthering knowledge (mine, primarily 😉), why does the hood need to be grounded, and specifically to the radiator guard? If there is a need for grounding, doesn’t the hood hinge act as sufficient ground for such? As a corollary question to the welt placement, what is the purpose for the 2 short welt pieces atop the radiator air foil/cowl that seem to be on a plane lower than the grill, i.e. where the hood won’t ever touch it? When I rebuilt Gus, these two locations served as anchor spots for flat support rods back to the firewall. I suspected that these were not OEM, but I have never known their original purpose.
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Unkamonkey
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Interesting questions. Why did there be 2 braided straps from the hood to the firewall on my MB? Noise suppression is my guess. Of course, there was the 6 circuit breakers under the dash. As near as I know it was a radio Jeep. There was an interesting number of condensers mounted as well.
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Fred Coldwell
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Rick G: Many of the military radios built during WW II used the AM frequency, which was venerable to atmospheric and nearby static. The old AM radio in your earliest vehicle would play back static if your car did not have ignition suppression. Even MVs near but not necessarily adjacent to a radio set would produce static and degrade the signal, especially in convoys. So to minimize static interference on AM radios, nearly all WW II military vehicles had ignition and body suppression installed at the factory. Early on both types of suppression employed many ground straps throughout the MB/GPW. Later in the war capacitors replaced some of the ground straps as ignition suppression improved. Body panels that rubbed together would produce radio frequency (RF) signals that the enemy could pick up and locate using RF directional signal detectors. Even when closed, while traversing uneven ground the front of the jeep hood would rub against the radiator guard and, if the welt was worn down, produce RF signals. So higher-than-welt metal screws were installed in two holes along the top of the radiator guard, and the hood was tinned on the inside directly above those screws, to increase the grounding of the hood front to the jeep body to minimize RF signals. The hood was also grounded at each hinge by having short ground straps bolted with toothed lock washers to both the hood and body sides of the hood hinges (which due to their construction with the pin riding loose inside the loops never had constant grounding). Other grounding straps were installed throughout the entire military jeep. Dedicated radio jeeps (that had radio sets permanently installed in them) ran their ignition system wires inside braided cables. Then some radio jeeps placed all ignition system components (coils, distributors, voltage regulators) inside cast aluminum or stamped steel housings to contain all RF signals. Very late in WW II rubber "O" rings were added at each end of the braided cables to make the ignition system waterproof. All jeeps, Dodges and GMC Jimmys were scheduled to have waterproof ignition systems installed beginning in December 1945 for the invasion of Japan, but Harry Truman ended the war 3 months earlier, so those waterproof ignition systems were never installed in mass production. FM radio sets were first used by the Connecticut State Patrol in 1939 to avoid the problem of AM static interference. FM radio development leaped forward throughout WW II, and WW II military radio sets were the first to widely use FM frequencies.
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Happy Jeep Trails,
Fred Coldwell Denver, CO 1944 CJ2-09 - X-33 1945 CJ2-26 - X-50 |
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Rick G
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Fred, I sincerely thank you. I certainly did not know this about the WWII jeeps. I thank you, not just for the information about unintended AM modulation, but the trip back into history. These seemingly minor details are quickly fading into obscurity. As you described the efforts of our tireless servicemen to mask any and all RF during maneuvers in hostile territory, I somehow was transported directly to their time and location. I felt the fear our boys felt as they drove as silently as the little Go Devil would allow, “hoping that all that grounding Sarge made us do to our jeeps would somehow keep the enemy guessing at our true location”. Sheez, I was pretty scared creeping along that muddy road at night somewhere there in eastern Europe.
And to think, I was trans-temporally juxtaposed into a time and place where our fathers and grandfathers fought to save civilization from tyranny all because of two missing rivets... These little machines that we so dearly love, and the men who keep them going, continue to teach me things about where we have been and to where we are going. To you, and to them, I am truly grateful. I hope I can do my part to continue the legacy.
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Unkamonkey
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Thanks for the info. It has been years since I had that Jeep but I can still remember a lot of it. Crap, that was 50 years ago?
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Fred Coldwell
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Rick G: You have a very active and accurate imagination to take you back to the battlefield during WW II. But you nailed the reason behind the RF suppression systems on our WW II military vehicles. The next time you're at a jeep gathering, ask a MB or GPW owner to show you the extensive grounding and ignition suppression features of his jeep. Glad my explanation made sense to you.
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Happy Jeep Trails,
Fred Coldwell Denver, CO 1944 CJ2-09 - X-33 1945 CJ2-26 - X-50 |
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Lee MN
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Oilleaker1
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Not only fascinating, but makes me wonder what those early Willys Overland design dept. guys did. They didn't have a cnc computer driven machine then. Wow. Oilly
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Lee MN
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Joe and I talked about that, they most likely used a “Panograpf” machine.
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Ol' Unreliable
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It would be cool to have a couple license-plate size panels made from that die set.
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There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable
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LuzonRed47
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Nice work. What sort of press arrangement you gonna use to stamp the logo?
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CJ2A #140275 "Ziggie" (purchased new by my dad in 1947)
ACM #124334 CJ3A windshield, Warn Overdrive 1953 Strick M100 trailer Serial #18253 |
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wheelie
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This is amazing work and way above my pay grade. It's also completely awesome that folks come together like this to help another jeeper restore such an important part of history. You guys are great, each and every one. My hat is off to you guys.
EDIT: I'd also love to have license plate sized one of these.......autographed by all the players involved. Edited by wheelie - 03 Feb. 2019 at 10:21pm |
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