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    Posted: 26 Feb. 2017 at 9:24am
Good Day troops,

Just joined this forum and have decided to start this build thread for my client. I own a restoration shop and this is one of our jobs for a customer. I usually start build threads as it's a good way to show progress for the client as the can track the build.

Also it's a great way to share information and parts procurement!

Here is the JP when we brought it in,



Getting some preliminary exploration done on the body,




Not sure what was up with that seat lol


Spare tire brace was a little rusty,


The engine seemed good, more on that later...


Under the fuel tank,


More ickyness,


In the tool bin, new floors are required,





more to come!




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Looking forward to following along.  The bottom of that tank certainly explains the gas mileage ;)
1946 CJ2A #69750 - "Plowshare"
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Originally posted by mbullism mbullism wrote:

Looking forward to following along.  The bottom of that tank certainly explains the gas mileage ;)

LOL, maybe this will help Wink



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Well pretty much where ever there was wood, there was rust!



Got started on the body parts for paint,


Lifted the tub from the frame, pretty uneventful,





Getting the bracing welded up prior to removing the floor pan,


Started to cut out the rot,


New pan waiting to be installed,


More and more nastiness being removed,



The previous owner said he had it running,


The frame is in really good shape for Southern Ontario,



So after having to cut one head stud to remove the head this is what greeted us, lots of sludge and crap!


When I took the block to the machine shop they said it took 75 tons of pressure to remove one of the pistons.



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Originally posted by Sauceman Sauceman wrote:

New pan waiting to be installed

Is that a new pan you purchased (as shown in the picture), or did you make that separately?
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Originally posted by pilot195 pilot195 wrote:

Originally posted by Sauceman Sauceman wrote:

New pan waiting to be installed

Is that a new pan you purchased (as shown in the picture), or did you make that separately?
Jim

It's a new pan purchased from Kaiser.

We also replaced the left front side piece, as seen here with the black part.


Speaking of the floor pan, when installed the side walls wrap around the floor pan. This makes installing it rather interesting as it has to come up from the bottom. Our work around was to cut the pan in two and install it that way, then weld it back together. When done you won't be able to see the seam, but a PITA nonetheless.


Here we're fitting the toolbox back in place.


Tags from the firewall,



Cleaning up the data plate,



Frame tag,


Engine numbers,



Here we are getting ready to strip the frame down for sand blasting,


A few hours later,


The next day the frame is blasted, coated with epoxy primer and covered in urathane semigloss black,


This was the transfer case bottom cover, num nums,


Transmission getting cleaned up. This was in really good shape, no chipped gears or over heated bearings.


installing the counter shaft gear cluster,


All put back together and painted,


Same with the transfer case,




until next time!
 
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Nice job,I'm just curious what would be the total price of that cj2a restoration?

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Originally posted by Gil Gil wrote:

Nice job,I'm just curious what would be the total price of that cj2a restoration?

Giles.



The actual price is between me and the client, and this one cost a little more as we wanted to save the original tub instead of just getting a replacement. When it's all done it will be around 300 hours of labour plus parts.

Your average restoration of a car is between 300 - 600 hours of labour.


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    Thanks Rick.You're doing great work.

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What did you use to take the paint off the tub? What for sander and what grit sandpaper did you use?
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While it is apart---> http://cj-2a.com/parts_list/CJ2A_data.php

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Mine looks just like that, I'm going to look at your pictures and pretend it's mine. Mine's going a little slower.
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Thanks fellas,

We start with 80grit on a DA sander set to grind mode. That's when you lock the spindle so that the pad doesn't articulate, it just spins like a grinder. Not all DA sanders have this option.

So after the floors are all tacked to the tub, the tub gets placed back on the chassis for the mount holes to get drilled. Then we bolt it all down and do most of the welding while it's bolted to the frame. This helps prevent a lot of warping from the heat. After that it gets removed from the frame for final welding and body work.


Here the floor is almost complete and the spare tire mount has been repaired with a new brace and exterior sheet metal.


Now the exterior of the tub gets its first coat of primer. All of the welding is done, the extra taillight holes are filled in etc.


Test fitting the brake and clutch pedals, the M/C will be replaced.


Rear drawbar and PTO installed,



Battery tray and neg cable sorted out,


We left the dings and dents on the bumpers for that lived in look. Ouch


Here is what the final colour shall be,




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Keep the pictures coming,nice
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Would you be willing to share some info on that paint color/code/brand, etc.
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Be sure to check the transmission hump alignment! On replacement tubs it is off. Best way to check it is with the power train in place.

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Thanks!

Originally posted by leecarr leecarr wrote:

Would you be willing to share some info on that paint color/code/brand, etc.

I'll get that info when I get back to the shop on Monday. The local NAPA dealer which I get most of my paint supplies from had the paint code in their directory. It's a single stage Nason brand urathane.

Originally posted by russnj russnj wrote:

Be sure to check the transmission hump alignment! On replacement tubs it is off. Best way to check it is with the power train in place.

Good tip. This is still the original tub from '46. We replaced all the rusted metal and installed the new front floor pan. After tacking it in place we set it back down on the frame with the trans/transfer case in place to make sure it was all GTG!


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Very Nice job. Thanks for sharing,
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