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    Posted: 04 Nov. 2022 at 9:02am
I just bought a 1946 CJ2A from the original owners estate. It is very original and even had the dash mounted ignition key with coil. I am hoping to get this re-keyed to use and was hoping that someone can tell me which type it is. I understand that it could be a Yale or Hurd system. 

Also, any suggestions as to where I can find an original style key blank? I have a local shop that works on these old parts, but interested in any recommendations for other locksmiths, etc.

I assume I can use any standard 6V coil with this?? 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mbullism Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov. 2022 at 9:08am
That's a hurd cylinder... pretty sure there are blanks on ebay right now...

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several listings, ymmv

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Edited by mbullism - 04 Nov. 2022 at 10:42am
1946 CJ2A #69750 - "Plowshare"
Bantam T3-C #8502
Bantam T3-C #9704
Bantam T3-C #15849
1969 Kaiser CJ5 (sold)

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Thanks much for the info
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I do not see why one could not use a 12 volt coil with this setup. As long as the coil fits in the bracket, it should be fine.

Personally I have had very good luck with local locksmiths when getting keys & locks repaired for old rigs. One major plus to using local shops is the relationship one builds with them. IME, The next time you need their help, they will be there for you. 

Oh, & X2 on it being a Hurd unit.
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Thx

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That is not an original coil in the photo. The original coil was integrated into the switch assembly, and had its primary circuit input in the base inside the switch assembly.
The "top" of the coil had the HT lead and one post for the wire to the distributor.
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Thanks. That makes sense
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Originally posted by vicpanza vicpanza wrote:


I assume I can use any standard 6V coil with this?? 




I guess I hadnt looked past the key cylinder hard enough... can you post a pic of the side and rear of the key/bracket portion?

The original coil had the key cylinder mounted in it




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Bantam T3-C #8502
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  So the contact between the switch and the coil is direct from the back of the switch to the “base” of the coil, correct? Then you have two terminals on the switch, one is feed and the other is for the gas gauge? I wonder, if one had only the switch/lock part, as it appears Vic has, if one could mount it behind the dash and use the gas gauge terminal to power both the gauge and the coil, using a “normal” coil hidden under the cowl. Original look without some of the unicorn horn. 
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Originally posted by TERRY TERRY wrote:

That is not an original coil in the photo. The original coil was integrated into the switch assembly, and had its primary circuit input in the base inside the switch assembly.
The "top" of the coil had the HT lead and one post for the wire to the distributor.

Dropping this here to keep them together, of a sort...


Maybe the one in the photos above is the IG3033CS, vs the usual IG3033XS?
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If you are interested this is a NEW HURD switch w/ keys for sale on Ebay.
Item # 204077089635
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Originally posted by 3-48s 3-48s wrote:

If you are interested this is a NEW HURD switch w/ keys for sale on Ebay.
Item # 204077089635

Not a switch, just a lock and keys. 
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Thanks for the note. I actually sold that parts I had to a friend who just had to have them. I'm using an original two pole switch with a floor starter, and tucking a new coil up under the dash. 
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