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Jerkzack 
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 Topic: 1947 CJ2aPosted: 10 Aug. 2016 at 3:34am |
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Hey everyone! My names Adam, I'm from the east coast of Canada. I've been a lurker for about a month now, ever since I picked this up quite unexpectedly.
I wasn't really looking for a CJ, but my coworker was storing this for her brother in law for the past 12ish years and due to his recent passing, she wanted it gone.  So I pumped up one tire, hooked the half rusted draw bar to my truck and towed it home. It was a hairy hour long drive to say the least, but we landed home and here it's sat ever since.  I am also currently working on a John Deere 318, finally getting to the paint stage. Once that's out of the way, I'll be able to focus a bit more time stripping this CJ down. My wife and I also just bought a house about 10 months ago that we're slowly bringing back to life. With all these projects, I legit signed a contract with the wife that there won't be any more projects. (My idea, not hers, all in good humor!) We also have a 7 month old keeping us a little busy, so all things said, this is going to be a SLOW project. It might be ready for the little guy to take to prom! The things I know about it already: CONS -It has a Toyota 3a motor out of an early 80's tercel. It will be swapped for a Kubota V2203. - Has a SOA swap that looks sketchy to say the least. But hey, it has a steering damper! -Speaking of the SOA, the springs are sagging and in need of replacement. -Frame has been patched, not sure how extensive yet, but front right rail has been reinforced -Riveted/screwed firewall to fit this horrible choice of an engine -E-brake location has been replaced with a push button starter -Homemade hard top. (Don't worry, it's going in the trash too) -Lots of bondo in some locations -Looks like the fender is welded to the step?/tub. -The tool box has been replaced with some sort of wooden box. -Back seat is gone -Dash has been hacked for a radio -Registed as a 1953 CJ2a, in the process of getting that changed. PROS: -Has a Koenig PTO winch! -pretty solid panels for the most part, looks to be mostly all there -an awful engine so gives me an excuse to swap to diesel -Hasn't been licensed for the road since 1993! Here's my album so far. It's late, I'm sorry. I'll edit this post tomorrow and include individual pictures. So all that said, any and all advice/tips are strongly encouraged! I can't wait to dive into this thing and learn everything I can about it while getting my hands dirty. Edited by Jerkzack - 10 Aug. 2016 at 3:42am |
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shadow
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Posted: 10 Aug. 2016 at 5:18am |
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welcome and congrats ,with the house and little one, the jeep will be a great way to keep busey
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masscj2a
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Posted: 10 Aug. 2016 at 1:03pm |
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Welcome. That's a great project and better then some have started with it. I will make a great project.
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1946 CJ2a Dauntless aka Jalopy
1946 VEC stock 1981 CJ-8 5.3 LS 1966 CJ-6 SBC TUX 1968 CJ-6 225 V6 1974 CJ-6 4.2 1967 M-416 East Coast Modified CJ's |
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Jerkzack
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Posted: 20 Sep. 2016 at 8:46pm |
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Instead of making a separate thread, I have a question on parts values.
I have a lead on a trailer load of CJ2-3 parts, specifically 4 engines in unknown condition (one is said to have been rebuilt, but no way to verify), 4 transfer cases (one TC has a PTO with front output and one lever, one TC has a pto with front and rear output and 2 levers), 2 or 3 frames in various stages of rust and rot (one frame has a machine gun mount though), at least 2 grilles in decent condition, 2 decent hoods, at minimum 4 sets of front and rear ends, 4-5 sets of wheels, spring packs, 3 or 4 totally rotted tubs, but still salvageable gauges and dashes. No windshield frames that I could see. How much approximately could I get for each engine? Anything stand out with the PTO's?
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Jerkzack
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Posted: 12 Oct. 2016 at 2:09am |
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Small update, got the hack-job radio, seats and fuel tank out, as well as half of a 5 gallon pail full of dirt and shell casings from under the seats!
      So long old wiring!  The bottom of the fuel tank has been replaced at some point, welds don't look great but as long as it doesn't leak, I don't care!  And finally, took the glass out and knocked off the homemade hard top, hacked it apart with a death wheel and took it to the recyclers.     Had a little helper!  Also, I think I've lined up a Kubota V2203 for uber cheap! Even it this one falls through, I love the Kubota swap and will be going in that direction for sure. |
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wadoyado
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Posted: 12 Oct. 2016 at 2:39am |
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Great project.The pto parts sound interesting any pics. I wouldn't be to hasty on scrapping the cab though, What metal cab wasn't homemade including sears ect?
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shadow
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Posted: 12 Oct. 2016 at 3:23am |
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there are going to be some great memories made there
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lets go for a rip eh bud
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Bruce W
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Posted: 12 Oct. 2016 at 5:32am |
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Among the things you ALWAYS find in these things, is cartridge cases or live cartridges under/behind the gas tank.
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It is NOT a Jeep Willys! It is a Willys jeep.
Happy Trails! Good-bye, Good Luck, and May the Good Lord Take a Likin' to You! We Have Miles to Jeep, Before We Sleep. |
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Posted: 12 Oct. 2016 at 2:58pm |
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My jeep also has a similar hole cut into the dash for a POS stock Delco radio; why?!
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47 CJ2A w/fuel injected boat engine
48 CJ2A 64 Ford Econoline Travelwagon If you can't get there in a Jeep, get a motorcycle! |
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Posted: 12 Oct. 2016 at 3:28pm |
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My 47 has that hole in the dash also. Only I did it! You do strange things when you are 15.
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Posted: 12 Oct. 2016 at 3:29pm |
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Oh yeah, that was 50 years ago!
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47 cj2a #136749 Warn O/D 03 Rubicon |
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Jerkzack
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Posted: 06 Feb. 2017 at 2:32am |
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So I'm starting to research and slowly purchase some parts. Currently looking for a transmission rebuild kit.
What is the difference between this Summit Racing kit: And say the kit from Novak: (Aside from the Novak kit coming with cluster shafts, but for 5 times as much) or the Walcks kit, which doesn't include syncros: ?
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clayvt
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Posted: 06 Feb. 2017 at 7:24am |
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The Novak kit will come with one sealed bearing for the input shaft, hardened cluster gear shaft, new 2nd gear and all the little parts to rebuild the shifter tower.
I too went back and forth on the cheaper it's vs. Novak. In the end I decided to go on everyone's recommendation and reputation and just bit the bullet. With everything that came with their kit plus a new 1st gear I needs I rebuilt my tranny in about 3 hours on my kitchen table with a YouTube rebuild video on the tv to follow along with. |
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Posted: 06 Feb. 2017 at 4:24pm |
In my opinion this is an area where "you get what you pay for." I use Walcks a lot. Carl is a Willys specialist, but he only can sell what he can get. Summit is a great place to buy stuff as long as you know what it is you are getting. They often have the best prices for commonly available parts but they deal in part numbers and shipping. I have had to send stuff back to them that didn't fit or wouldn't work. They were good about it, but it was still a pain. Novak does one thing, Jeep drive trains. And they have been doing it a long time. They machine and harden their shafts themselves because they can't get good ones from anyone else. They include the sealed front bearing and plugs for the pass through holes. All this stuff they include in every kit based on their years of rebuilding these things and learning what really works with them. I am the original "go cheap" guy, that has finally started to learn that doing things with the good stuff the first time is actually cheaper that doing it twice. I have not learned this lesson easily., and I am still drawn to the cheapest price, often to my dismay.  As always other opinions may vary.
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Posted: 06 Feb. 2017 at 5:45pm |
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I agree totally with Stan. I would like to add, though, that none of the kits linked to include the synchroniser hub or sleeve, and it's pointless to replace the blocking rings etc. without them. ALL of these transmissions have a worn 2-3 synchroniser, and replacing part of it won't help. And that includes the input gear and the second speed gear. Do it right, do it once, and don't look back.
A REBUILD of any component involves replacement or refurbishment of every part that might be worn, so that everything is like new. Disassembly, cleaning, replacing gaskets and re-assembling does not constitute a REBUILD. Disassembly, cleaning, and replacing only those parts that are worn beyond specs, is an OVERHAUL, or a REPAIR, not a REBUILD. From what I've seen of T-90 transmissions, nearly all of them (around here anyway) need a kit like what is offered here: https://www.kaiserwillys.com/category/overhaul-kits/transmission-overhaul-kits/complete-transmission-overhaul-kit-4-134-engine-fits-46-71-jeep-willys-with-t-90-transmission However, that is offered by Kaiser-Willys and is sure to be supplied by Omix-ADA, and I would not use it if there is any other way. All of the parts needed are offered by Novack, but not in a "kit" as far as I know. The price for all of the needed parts, individually, from Novack, is near to $900 total, but if you want it right, and don't want to do it again, I believe that it is the way to go. If anyone has used the K-W kit and has had good luck with it, I'd like to hear about it. BW
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It is NOT a Jeep Willys! It is a Willys jeep.
Happy Trails! Good-bye, Good Luck, and May the Good Lord Take a Likin' to You! We Have Miles to Jeep, Before We Sleep. |
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Posted: 06 Feb. 2017 at 7:58pm |
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This is a little off current topic... I read your original post. You said the springs were saggy, but it looked like it was sitting pretty proud. Finally noticed the spring over-axle conversion. It actually looks pretty nice up there.
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Jerkzack
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Posted: 07 Feb. 2017 at 2:14am |
Thanks for all the responses! Definitely some food for thought. Although I totally agree that all new parts would be the way to go, but there is no way I'm paying $900 to rebuild a transmission. Sorry, but OUCH! I do realize you get what you pay for most of the time, and it's not that I don't believe or respect your opinions, but I'd be curious to know if there's first hand knowledge that it's crap, or if it's just been passed down from generations to use the expensive stuff because it's expensive and people relate higher price to higher quality (which also sometimes doesn't always work out either). Not trying to start a debate, just thinking out loud! |
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Posted: 07 Feb. 2017 at 2:16am |
Thanks! Looks cool but I'm sure it must've handled like 💩
Edited by Jerkzack - 07 Feb. 2017 at 2:18am |
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