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BD1
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Posted: 24 Dec. 2020 at 1:04am |
I am thinking that I could use a Willys pick up. I am looking at two, priced pretty close, with a similar state of rust. A '62 with a plow and a homemade steel bed powered by a 226 that turns over but doesn't start, and a '63 that has all the sheet metal and is pretty much all original but is powered by a stuck 230 Tornado. I know the '63 with the Tornado would be worth a lot more restored, But I don't have have a clue about that motor, and finding rebuild parts seems like quite a project. In general I go for drivers rather than museum pieces. Any advice regarding the Tornado?
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Lee MN
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I have on in my M715, I have put 20k miles on it with no issues other than leaking valve cover gaskets, they have a rubber seal and the ones availible today crack from heat cycles I’m lucky to get a year out of one. The engine itself is very smooth running, the civilian model like your looking at has a front mounting plate like a 2A engine that were somewhat prone to leaking so I’m told, I like mine 👍🏽 A very unique engine with an overhead cam and cross flow head and the cam has only one lobe per cylinder that runs both valves 😮 Walcks has most parts for them.
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BD1
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Thanks for the reply. Do you know anyone who's ever rebuilt one?
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BD
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Lee MN
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Yes, but years ago. Several guys on the M715 Zone have rebuilt theirs, pretty simple engine.....I’ve seen running ones sell on marketplace around the country for cheap, but never close by.
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3A Steve
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Old Willys Forum has a lot of stuff on the 230 Tornado.
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oldtime
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Say Lee, I think you got us wondering.
I realize those are huge valve covers but could you possibly buy some good quality sheet cork gasket material and make your own valve cover gaskets.
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47 deuce alpha
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As was stated there is a lot of info on the Old Willys Forum. I have the L-226 in my 55 pickup and have been satisfied with it for an old engine. The L-226 was based on the Continental Red Seal which was used in many different applications. Parts availability is good. The Tornado 230 was only in use for about 3 years I think, not long enough to even work the bugs out. Parts might be less available. Below is a pretty good link
https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2012/06/classic-engine-jeeps-tornado-straight-six.html |
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Lee MN
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Thanks for the thoughts but it’s a bit more complicated than that, it’s a rubber seal with a bead that pops into a slot cast in the aluminum valve cover, we’re it made of silicone like Detroit Diesel did, they would last forever!.... Very easy to replace!. Lee |
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Tom in RI
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If I were ever to venture into a pickup it would have a 230. Its just cool looking and sets that truck apart from others. I had an M715 and it was reliable and powerful enough to drive in traffic. It had that leak which wasnt bad but it was annoying. I bought the truck with a bad engine (rod knock) and swapped it out with a pull from another M715 guy. During ownership I easily gathered up spare engine parts and eventually sold them - easily. I bet the knocking engine is still in my friends garage…maybe someday.
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