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    Posted: 05 Sep. 2020 at 8:12am
Before I go ahead and guess and then find out I'm wrong...

I just mounted "new" 6v aftermarket tail lights on my 2A.  I'm also installing a Walcks wiring harness.  My tail light harness has yellow and red wires with bullet tips that I'm going to have to splice into the lights...but the new tail lights have a red and black wire each.

Which wire combination is for normal tail lights, and which is for brake light?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rocnroll Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep. 2020 at 2:16pm
Put power to the wires one at a time while grounding the housing....the brighter one is the brake light.

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Red to red.  Yellow to black.
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Originally posted by athawk11 athawk11 wrote:

Red to red.  Yellow to black.

You sure are confident in your statement. Are you positive that’s the proper way the wires should be connected 
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Just do temporary splice with wires as athawk said.  If wrong, switch em. 50-50 chance.  Once you think they’re right, make the splice permanent
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Originally posted by Grumpy1 Grumpy1 wrote:

Originally posted by athawk11 athawk11 wrote:

Red to red.  Yellow to black.

You sure are confident in your statement. Are you positive that’s the proper way the wires should be connected 

I was sure until you seeded some doubt. So I snapped a photo of my Walck's aftermarket tail lamps and harness connection...



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OMG! - Tim, do I see a flat washer out of place on your Jeep?
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JEEP POLICE ! 
Pull over so we can we write you up !

Your ticket stipulates .......

Extra flat washer noted under the #6 right rear body mount location.

Flat washer missing from the after market right rear taillight mounting stud.

JEEP COURT case #00001
You now have two strikes against your jeep.
How do you plead ?

And: Detective Joe Friday you are inline for a promotion


Edited by oldtime - 06 Sep. 2020 at 4:36pm
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You've gone and stepped in it now, Tim...  Big smile
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  I move that the charge of "Flat washer missing from the after market right rear taillight mounting stud." be dropped. There is a star washer in that location to enhance grounding. Respectfully Submitted. BW
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Court Date has been set for 8 AM Monday September 20th at the Thirsty Dirt Ranch.
A summons has been issued.

You will be Judged by a Jury of your Peers. ALL WEEK LONG.
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Wow, so very sorry I asked.  Didn't want to get anyone in trouble...lol.

Note to self:  Never post my hardware pics...lol.  Wink

Thanks for the replies!

Jay
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There must have been some digital photo shadow feature turned on or something.  Checked the Jeep for the rogue washer.  It wasn't there.

While trying to stay true to the original tail lamp placement, I ended up with no room for a flat washer. I like to use flat washers, but I don't believe they were originally used in this location.

This will be my defense at said court date.  I will plead for leniency.  






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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpy1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Sep. 2020 at 1:09pm
Tim, are those water spots I see around the tail light screws? That Willys is way too clean I can't tell what color mine is on the underside, too much cow poo and mud. Guess you could call it a sh*tty yellow. Sorry I got you in trouble with the jeep police
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JEEP CIRCUIT COURT

International Willys Law section 15-09B stipulates use of one 1/4” “shake proof “ lockwasher per stud.
Due to statute violation error on officer oldtimes initial ticket , I now suspend and drop all charges.

A word of warning:
Technically your Jeep still remains in violation of statute 15-09B. And as indicated by detective Friday you feasibly could be re-issued a ticket at any time.

Tim athawk11, You pay no court costs and are free to go.




Edited by oldtime - 07 Sep. 2020 at 3:14pm
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Wow, I bet the use of reproduction "A Model" Ford LED taillights would get me in trouble were I anywhere near your jurisdiction, but just having working taillights on an old vehicle is probably a surprise to the law around here. 

The underneath of my CJ is rust brown, and you can hardly see whether there are even any washers left under all the crud and crumble let alone see whether they meet code. I am afraid to try washing it underneath as the rust is structural at this point.
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