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where you rest the beer on those round fenders?

 the m416 fenders would need the brackets on the tub reworked to replace the round fenders.
Personally I believe the m416 is a better trailer frame. Shocks and parking brake would be hard to add to a tc-3 but then a ball hitch and tailgate weren't easy to add either.
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No experience but I think I prefer the Bantam T3-C over all the others.
For one thing I like the history behind it.
And I believe it would serve my need as a versitile trailer.
Part time conestoga camper and part time firewood duty.

If I’m not mistaken the 416 is a little wider than the flat fender jeeps.

I actually somewhat prefer the T3 pintle hitch.
The pintle better handles extreme off road angles and it’s less likely that someone tows it off when your not hitched up.

I might prefer changing the fenders for something else like Willys PU fenders of whatever is flat and looks right but that’s not a big deal.

Yes I would certainly like to have T3 trailer brakes at times like when I use it as a conestoga camper.
And the T3 shocks might be a big plus too.

So which makes more sense.... modify a Bantam T3 by installing a tailgate or add shocks, brakes and pintle eye to a T3-C ?

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Ken,

Unless the T3 is beyond its value and required a lot of refab of its original tub I would not modify one. They are getting very hard to find in original condition. I'd modify an M100 or M416 tub first.

Adding a lunette to a T3-C could very easily be reversed (its just a bolt on piece) but original MBT and T3 lunettes and castings can be expensive.

If you do not have one but do have the welding skills, I have one a PO cut off the ring and welded on a coupler that could be cut off and reworked to accept the ring again.

I'd have to look to see if I have a T3/MBT casting rat holed.

Brakes again are just bolt on as are the shock mounts.


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Originally posted by JeepFever JeepFever wrote:

Originally posted by oldtime oldtime wrote:

Looking at pics it appears to me that the Bantam fenders are at 32” radius. 
Can someone verify the Bantam fender radius ?


I made a template out of thick cardboard to the diameter of the 7.50x16 NDTs.   It was used for laying out the rear gas/tire rack.    I keep moving that cardboard around,   thinking I should just throw it away.

Glad I did not LOL,  I will compare it to my 2 Bantams this evening.   I don't remember the exact diameter,  but will share the measurement also.  It should be close to 32"

I am not sure how much this helps,  but this is the result of comparing template to one Bantam fender.  

This photo shows the inside of fender lip,  compared to a 15" radius (30 diameter) pencil line.   It appears this fender was tweaked at some point,  because it is not perfectly "round"




Template is 32" diameter,  although a little rough.   This photo shows it compared to outside of fender.





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Art thanks for the suggestions. 
I believe either the T3-C or M100 will best suite my needs.
I will want to add bow pockets if I find an M 100.
Always thinking ahead so I’ll wait’n see which one shows up first.

Jeep fever, that’s exactly what I was expecting and hoping to see.
Looks like max tire diameter is 32” or 7.50 x 16”.
Now I can rest assured that I can swap trailer tires with my jeeps.
Currently building my final F-134 powered 3B .
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