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    Posted: 04 Jan. 2022 at 7:50pm
I have a 3A windshield frame on my 2A Jeep...I took the frame to a glass shop to replace the windshield...long story short, they couldn't install the glass because the corner of the frame is bent...specifically, top of the driver's side corner is dent in (looking at the jeep from the front). 

I need to flatten it enough so that the glass will go in...any suggestions are welcome. 

Dented in from this angle


Other side....

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I was thinking a hydraulic press with a bottle jack might do the trick...thoughts?
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Hi Mickey,
It's hard to tell without seeing or measuring the bad corner next to a good corner. How much do you think it has to move?

I could be mistaken, but thought that true expert (maybe old school) auto glass shops could sand (trim) the edges of tempered glass to overcome some misfit issues like that to get a proper fit. I have no idea how much would be too much. Perhaps if you got some clearance and they got some clearance then all might be well?

I'm no metal shaper so I have no clue on working that corner back to normal. I know enough to know I'd make it worse if I tried. No help here.

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It needs the move a little more than 1/2 inch. 
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Has anybody used an arbor press to straighten sheet metal? I'm wondering if that could be a useful tool for my application...
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I've seen videos where metal workers use hammers like magic.  There's an art to shrinking and stretching metal.  A torch may make the metal more plyable.

I would not rule out a donor replacement - even if it were a splice repair into your w/s frame.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mickey.monaghan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan. 2022 at 12:06pm
Yeah...maybe it's time to bite the bullet and order a new one from Kaiser Willys. I was hoping to save the one I've got.
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Two things helped me a lot in this type of repair. The book, Key To Metal Bumping and a cheap set of body hammers.
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Support on the low side of the dent and carefully wack it with a hammer. But from the looks of that frame its a LONG way from having glass put in it. You need to get rid of that rust and do any body work first.
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Originally posted by Mark W. Mark W. wrote:

But from the looks of that frame its a LONG way from having glass put in it. You need to get rid of that rust and do any body work first.
 
Unless of course, that's the 'look' he is wanting to maintain...just making a usable windshield,
 
Do as Mark suggests but use a sandbag (or some semi-soft substance) instead of backing it with something hard.....to straighten but not stretch the metal. should make it useable.
 
(can't get a real good feel for the bend from that picture)
 
 
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Correct...I just want it to be usable...I'm not looking to make it pretty any time soon...
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Hammer and dolly should bring that right back. That sheet metal isn’t real thick and should come back easily.
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This is all great feedback! I ordered the book "Key To Metal Bumping" and I just did an online purchase of a hammer and dolly set. 

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If you have a Willy s you need to learn to paint,Weld,work metal. If its mine, I would start by sand blasting the frame, welding up the holes, and working the Metal.
inch by inch everything is a cinch.
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That Jeep looks sweet!!!
I definitely wouldn’t mess it up with new paint!
The pin stripes are cool, is that a club sticker near the fender?
You could Try using some 2x4 scraps or any blocks of wood and a bottle Jack under the corner of the bumper with the frame laying on the ground to press the windshield frame straight.


Edited by Flatfender Ben - 10 Jan. 2022 at 1:56pm
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With a 327, you should pull the car------LOL

You can flatten out the corner. Get a flat block of thick wood under the corner and work it slowly here and there until it's back in shape. An old big kingpin will sit right next to the shouldered lip at the step and hammer on it against the wood block under. You won't miss and hit the lip the rubber fits on that way. Wood will give a little where metal blocks won't. Metal to metal also flattens and stretches the thin windshield metal. That stretch creates more material and it will oil can or form a wave. To shrink, you heat the stretched area until glowing hot and dolly it a bit, then air hose it cool. You won't believe how much it moves. You will win. Wink
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