CJ Identification

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   UPDATE - ADDED A FEW MORE PICTS. Thanks for the quick responses!
All,
Thanks for letting me join the group.  Been a Willy's fan for a while - own a couple Jeepsters and finally picked up a CJ.

I'm having trouble identifying which model it is.  No plates left and who knows if it's the original engine.

They replaced the windshield (with a CJ3a version).  That's easy to spot.
The passenger seat is fixed (does not flip up).  No tool box underneath.  I'm figuring they didn't re-install it.
The thing that has me perplexed is the tub.  According to the "records" they replaced the tub in 2012.  Which tub did they use?
	Has a glove box - MB/GPW?
	Shovel/Axe indentations are on the passenger side? Never seen any models with that

All else seems to be CJ2A parts.

Any help or explanation is appreciated.

Thank you

Rounded bar behind the front grill and dash and floor:

Edited by tufcj2a - 19 Apr. 2018 at 10:29pm

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tufcj2a Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 19 Apr. 2018 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 227	Post Options Post Reply Quote tufcj2a Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: CJ Identification Posted: 19 Apr. 2018 at 5:44pm
	UPDATE - ADDED A FEW MORE PICTS. Thanks for the quick responses! All, Thanks for letting me join the group. Been a Willy's fan for a while - own a couple Jeepsters and finally picked up a CJ. I'm having trouble identifying which model it is. No plates left and who knows if it's the original engine. They replaced the windshield (with a CJ3a version). That's easy to spot. The passenger seat is fixed (does not flip up). No tool box underneath. I'm figuring they didn't re-install it. The thing that has me perplexed is the tub. According to the "records" they replaced the tub in 2012. Which tub did they use? Has a glove box - MB/GPW? Shovel/Axe indentations are on the passenger side? Never seen any models with that All else seems to be CJ2A parts. Any help or explanation is appreciated. Thank you Rounded bar behind the front grill and dash and floor: Edited by tufcj2a - 19 Apr. 2018 at 10:29pm

RICKG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 Jan. 2015 Location: so idaho Status: Offline Points: 1941	Post Options Post Reply Quote RICKG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr. 2018 at 6:16pm
	At first glance i'll call it an M38 tub. Windshield (screwed closed vent), tool indents and lack of side drains screams M38. Does the tub have the front floor drains, the dash with small glove box, removable inst panel, far left mounted parking brake? It does not have the hinged M38 grill however. The hood has no willys stamp but no fording cutout. Does the tailgate have the willys stamp?
	I never met a mule I didn't like! MC51986 "OD MULE" DOD 01-52 '50 CJ3A "Bucksnort". Keep 'em Rollin'

Stev Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 27 July 2016 Location: Cincinnati Status: Offline Points: 2384	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stev Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr. 2018 at 7:23pm
	Nice looking Jeep! The tub could be a replacement tub from a few years or more back. Seem to remember that had M38 tool indents, Cj2/3a dash holes and the MB glove box.
	Stev 1946 CJ2A Trail Jeep (The Saint), 1948 CJ2A Lefty Restored

rocnroll Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 20 July 2005 Location: Tuscumbia, AL Status: Offline Points: 13583	Post Options Post Reply Quote rocnroll Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr. 2018 at 7:47pm
	A photo of the dash/floorboard area would help.
	'47 CJ2A PU '48 CJ2A Lefty "Common sense is not that common"

ggordon49 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 30 June 2017 Location: Connecticut Status: Offline Points: 1436	Post Options Post Reply Quote ggordon49 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr. 2018 at 8:22pm
	This add was over on ewillys this morning... It was described as having a replacement body, the tool indents can be seen on passenger side. I know this is a 3B, but maybe the same company was producing these body's?

Mark W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 09 Nov. 2014 Location: Silverton, OR Status: Offline Points: 7975	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mark W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr. 2018 at 11:18pm
	deleted Edited by Mark W. - 20 Apr. 2018 at 4:14am
	Chug A Lug 1948 2A Body Customized 1949 3A W/S 1957 CJ5 Frame Modified Late 50's 134L 9.25"clutch T90A D18 (1.25") D44/30 flanged E-Locker D25 5.38 Since 1962

Mark W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 09 Nov. 2014 Location: Silverton, OR Status: Offline Points: 7975	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mark W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr. 2018 at 11:20pm
	M-38 windshield, older reproduction tub, CJ-2/3, front clip. Frame is most likely 2A.
	Chug A Lug 1948 2A Body Customized 1949 3A W/S 1957 CJ5 Frame Modified Late 50's 134L 9.25"clutch T90A D18 (1.25") D44/30 flanged E-Locker D25 5.38 Since 1962

athawk11 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 18 Jan. 2012 Location: Arvada,Colorado Status: Offline Points: 4151	Post Options Post Reply Quote athawk11 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr. 2018 at 3:14am
	Definately an early reproduction body sitting on a 2A chassis/frame. The dash gives it away. Combination of MB/CJ/M38 features.
	1- 1946 CJ2A 2- 1949 CJ3A

jaksjep Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 03 Nov. 2013 Location: Southern CA Status: Offline Points: 471	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaksjep Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr. 2018 at 5:20am
	Frankenstein????
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	"Combination of MB/CJ/M38 features." I like it though. Dig the MB ignition switch, cigar lighter, and dual ashtrays! BW
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tufcj2a Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 19 Apr. 2018 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 227	Post Options Post Reply Quote tufcj2a Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Apr. 2018 at 12:58am
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