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   In rebuilding my cj2aI got to the last spring install. Found the shackle side of the spring didn't have any threads. I tried to look for a threaded bushing on line, none. Guess the bush is in the spring. Need to buy the correct spring? Thanks for any info..Rick

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Rick Lane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06 June 2014 Location: Cincinnati ohio Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rick Lane Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: cj2a springs Posted: 21 Feb. 2021 at 6:07pm
	In rebuilding my cj2aI got to the last spring install. Found the shackle side of the spring didn't have any threads. I tried to look for a threaded bushing on line, none. Guess the bush is in the spring. Need to buy the correct spring? Thanks for any info..Rick
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jgodfrey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 07 Oct. 2020 Location: Shakopee MN Status: Offline Points: 663	Post Options Post Reply Quote jgodfrey Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Feb. 2021 at 10:22pm
	The shackle side of the spring does not have a bushing. Only the end with the pivot bolt has a bushing. The shackle has threads that tighten inside the eye of the springs. Walck's has very high quality springs made for them. I have a full set and love them. When you buy the springs they come with the bushings for the pivot bolts. FYI - the shackles on the front-left, and right-read have reverse threads on the spring-side of the shackle so as they compress it tensions the leaf spring. Spring Assembly Front 10 Leaf MB, GPW, CJ2A, 3A, 3B, DJ, M38 (walcks4wd.com)

Rick Lane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06 June 2014 Location: Cincinnati ohio Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rick Lane Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Feb. 2021 at 10:49pm
	Thanks for the info.. Rick
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Rick Lane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 06 June 2014 Location: Cincinnati ohio Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rick Lane Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar. 2021 at 10:46pm
	I understand now...Thanks Rick
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uncamoney Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 26 June 2019 Location: greeley co Status: Offline Points: 451	Post Options Post Reply Quote uncamoney Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar. 2021 at 11:06pm
	Don't over tighten them. My brother replaced the shackles and they soon broke. Tighten them up , back them off about 1/2 turn. They only work if they are allowed to rotate.
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wfopete Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 Nov. 2020 Location: Dover, Arkansas Status: Offline Points: 305	Post Options Post Reply Quote wfopete Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr. 2021 at 3:53am
	So what places offer the better springs? I was thinking of getting a full kit (springs/shackles/bushing/shocks etc) as mine are original and in poor condition. Edited by wfopete - 15 Apr. 2021 at 3:57am

Bruce W Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 29 July 2005 Location: Northeast Colorado Status: Offline Points: 9649	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bruce W Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr. 2021 at 4:31am
	Carl Walck (Walck's4WD) has USA-made springs and everything else at a reasonable price. I've used a couple of sets of his springs with good results. I would not hesitate to use his springs again. Carl endeavors to offer the best available of whatever he sells. https://walcks4wd.com/32-piece-suspension-kit-mb-gpw-cj2a-cj3a-cj3b-1941-1964_p_2140.html ; BW
	It is NOT a Jeep Willys! It is a Willys jeep. Happy Trails! Good-bye, Good Luck, and May the Good Lord Take a Likin' to You! We Have Miles to Jeep, Before We Sleep.

ndnchf Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member x 2 Joined: 22 Sep. 2017 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 2177	Post Options Post Reply Quote ndnchf Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr. 2021 at 11:24am
	What Bruce said above. I bought Carl's full kit last summer at one of his 10% off sales. Excellent quality and free shipping. Quality springs are worth spending the extra money on.
	1948 CJ2A - It goes nowhere fast, but anywhere slow.

JonJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 18 Apr. 2020 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 316	Post Options Post Reply Quote JonJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr. 2021 at 12:54pm
	Hi While we are on the subject, my 48 has the classic lean on the left side which I assume is springs as I can pull up the left side from the wheel arch up to level. Sound about right? Those springs look great, you guys are so lucky to have places like Walcks that stock this stuff at great prices. Might ask them if they want a franchise in the UK! Edited by JonJ - 15 Apr. 2021 at 12:55pm

drm101 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12 Dec. 2012 Location: Clarkston, MI Status: Offline Points: 1470	Post Options Post Reply Quote drm101 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr. 2021 at 3:32pm
	One more plug for Walck's. I have the Made in USA springs and their M38A1 shackle kit and like them. Edited by drm101 - 15 Apr. 2021 at 3:38pm
	Dean '47 CJ2A "Ron" '66 CJ5 "Buckie" The less the Power the More the Force

smfulle Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 16 Sep. 2010 Location: Ogden, Utah Status: Offline Points: 6141	Post Options Post Reply Quote smfulle Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr. 2021 at 6:00pm
	A 2nd opinion on springs. Since I wheel my CJ2A pretty hard, I bash the springs on a lot of rocks, beating and bending them at times. This has caused me to thing of springs as more of a wear or replacement item like tires rather than a lifetime fix. If I were going to use my rig for trail riding or farm type use and had no intention of rock bashing, I would definitely go with the Walcks high quality springs. Since I replace mine springs every 2 or 3 years anyway, I choose to go with the less expensive Crown replacement springs. They have a nice soft ride compared to the heavier duty Walcks springs and I don't feel so bad when I bend the end of one. I usually get mine from Summit because they have competitive prices and offer free shipping.
	Stan 48 CJ2A (Grampa's Jeep) 59 Chevy 1/2 ton Grampa's Jeep Build Thread

43 Flat-Fender Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 22 Sep. 2020 Location: Louisville, KY Status: Offline Points: 112	Post Options Post Reply Quote 43 Flat-Fender Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr. 2021 at 6:31pm
	Thanks Stan, Excellent additional info that the crown springs have a softer ride, I'm still running the original Ford springs on my 43 gpw and I, too, much prefer the soft ride that they provide. I will also say, that the proper, old school shocks, that are NOT gas charged make a HUGE difference in providing a soft and smooth ride. OVER THE COUNTER SHOCKS THAT COME WITH PLASTIC STRAPS THAT HOLD THEM TOGETHER AND EXPAND AS SOON AS YOU TAKE THE STRAP OFF ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND ON THESE OLD FLAT FENDERS.
	*Rob* GPW 94445 (DOD 01-25-43) Built in Louisville KY Engine: MB341746 "Faithful Steed" since 1967

wfopete Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 Nov. 2020 Location: Dover, Arkansas Status: Offline Points: 305	Post Options Post Reply Quote wfopete Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr. 2021 at 7:46pm
	I don't want to hijack this thread but that brings up a subject I've thought about: Ride What is recommended for getting into a softer more comfortable ride and in what order? Tires, shocks, springs or a Lincoln MK4? Skip the Ford I can't afford that.

43 Flat-Fender Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 22 Sep. 2020 Location: Louisville, KY Status: Offline Points: 112	Post Options Post Reply Quote 43 Flat-Fender Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr. 2021 at 8:14pm
	Ride quality It doesn't matter that I have Ford springs. Not at all. What I was trying to suggest is that the original springs, Willys or Ford, can provide an exceptionally good quality ride and I have found that in order to achieve a quality soft and not harsh ride that the shocks make a huge difference. I see a lot of folks in pictures have bright blue shocks that appear like what I had from Napa 25 or 30 years ago that I'm sure are pretty much identical today. Even then the shocks had nitrogen charge in them. If you feel those shocks and try to compress them they are very very stiff on the compression stroke and that added to leaf springs makes for a jarring harsh ride. I'm not sure who sells them? But I assume somebody actually sells shocks that are non-nitrogen charged? The difference is really night and day; two totally different jeeps. The other thing that I have found that makes a very big difference is to oil the springs. And by oiling, I mean soak them on the sides with PB blaster or liquid wrench out of a spray can. All the way from the shackle to the to the pin at the other end do it multiple times and let the PB blaster or liquid wrench penetrating oil soak in between the leaves of the springs. You will then notice two things. Almost all of the squeaks and moans and groans of the suspension will disappear and the ride will have gotten remarkably softer and more enjoyable. This will not, however, be obvious as long as the nitrogen charged shocks are in place. I have a $0 fix for that too if anybody's interested? But, to start with, soak your springs with spray PB blaster or liquid wrench and I mean soak them. It will make a difference.
	*Rob* GPW 94445 (DOD 01-25-43) Built in Louisville KY Engine: MB341746 "Faithful Steed" since 1967

wfopete Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 Nov. 2020 Location: Dover, Arkansas Status: Offline Points: 305	Post Options Post Reply Quote wfopete Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr. 2021 at 8:42pm
	I guess that would be one reason for the popularity of coil over springs. Probably lose a chunk of weight and get a more comfortable ride. I think the rock guys prefer ts convert to coil over setups, as you don't have the leafs hanging down with the rocks. A temping thought.