Cliffhanger Trail in Moab

My recommendation would be to NOT roll off those cliffs, with, or without a cage and seatbelts

jpet wrote: Greg, you pictures are amazing!! Did you get one of BAM BAM from this perspctive? ... looks like Stan is driving right off the Cliff!!

Thanks Jeff!

Let me see what I have.
















The rest of my pics from the weekend (Moab Rim, the Pickle) are here - https://greg-catherine.smugmug.com/Travel/April-2018-RME-Trip-Moab-Utah/
 

jpet wrote: Thanks Greg, Now we need to see some of you going up the Waterfall! Here is a video from Ted and Carrie:

I'll see who had pics from my waterfall climb and share them.

That footage and editing from Ted and Carrie is great, they really captured how challenging it was! My GoPro footage turned out horrible, for some reason the mount I used caused a lot of the camera vibrating, making noise and a very bumpy picture. :(

I will admit that I feel like that wasn't my smoothest driving, I know I need deeper low range gearing for the rocky Moab trails.... and power steering sure would be nice. If I added those things, I'd be a lot happier with how it worked on the trail. A front locker would be nice, too...

Wow, really great photos!  I cant wait to get out to Moab again sometime soon.

Great video too!  I will need to put this trail on my list - with a few upgrades to my jeep before I make an attempt.

Dave


Edited by dluber - 23 Apr. 2018 at 11:51pm

Bridog wrote: The documentation of this little adventure keeps me refreshing my screen eagerly awaiting new posts.....

Grab a chair:


Greg also shot some drone footage that I expect to be incredible!

....Jeff, I am glad that you finally got to do the Cliffhanger trail and that the experience was shared with such a great group of flatties and friends.

Thanks Brian, The scenery on this trial is an absolute miracle and once again, you have to earn mother earth's respect before she unlocks her secrets. I will advise the readers that if you didn't like Black Bear and the steps, you really won't like this trail. It was also amazing to me the way Stan and I got to meet Ted and Carrie. Simple timing and coincidence. I'm also very happy to have finally met Greg@RME and to have some new friends in the Qwaaazy 8's. I expect we will be wheeling together much in the future.

So glad that Stan was able to join me! What a gr8 guy gr8 jeep and gr8 friend!!.... he is Qwaaazy!!!

I'm certainly going to do this trail more times in the future but I'm very happy to have finished old business. New Business: Pritchett Canyon, Rusty Nail, Helldorado. Some will tell me they can't be done in a flatty with NDTs.... I don't believe it.



Edited by jpet - 24 Apr. 2018 at 11:58am

Yea, that was a really nice video, Jeff! 

Greg, I have radials too.  Can I ask what tire pressure you run on these trails and what you run normally on the road?

And, are Ted's jeep and Greg's jeeps still Willys engine and drive train?  Do you guys have lockers and lower than normal gearing?

Thanks!

My little Jeep, "Pepe", has a 2.3 liter Ford engine (with a carburetor), a C4 automatic transmission and a bone stock 26 tooth Dana 18 transfer case.  The front axle is a modified Dana 30 with 5.38 gears and open differential.  The rear axle is a tapered axle 44 with 5.38 gears, of course, and an open differential.  

aboyandhisdog wrote: ... Greg, I have radials too.  Can I ask what tire pressure you run on these trails and what you run normally on the road? And, are Ted's jeep and Greg's jeeps still Willys engine and drive train?  Do you guys have lockers and lower than normal gearing? Thanks!

I was running 12 PSI for the trails last weekend, I wanted to go a little lower to 9-10 PSI but didn't want to loose any more ground clearance. I had a little sidewall buldge and the tires had some give on the rocks, but less pressure would have made for more traction and a better ride. I'll run 20-25 PSI on the road, usually don't drive it very far though.... just around town.

I'm running a Buick Oddfire V6 with the T90 and Dana 18.... LockRite in the rear, t-case gearing is stock as well as axle gears at 5.38's. I could use deeper low range gearing, I was bouncing over rocks and ledges when I should have been crawling. The Buick has just enough torque at idle that it will keep running over MOST rocks, but if you give it any gas, it's too much wheel speed. I will be pulling the trigger on a TeraLow for the Dana 18 real soon here.

I had so much fun last weekend, I have another project 'crawler' Willys but it's a long way from being done. I think I'll be modifying Ole Yeller for more Moab trail time. ;)


Edited by Greg@RME - 25 Apr. 2018 at 2:12am

This was a well documented ride.