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Thanks to all for those excellent tips.  I do have that Universal Jeep Service Manual downloaded to my computer.  Some kind person added that to the forum some time back.  And I have seen it for sale for around $40.  It's 281 pages, so I likely will only print what is necessary.  I will post more photos as I go along.  Today, I must take care of some of my garden harvest.  15 pounds of beets await pickling in my kitchen!Tongue
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Here are a few photos, so you can see the progress.  More will come, soon, with questions.




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Originally posted by TeddieG TeddieG wrote:




Looks like someone wanted to pull the tranny/Xfer case and couldn't get the levers off. 
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LOL!  Hubby was taking a closer look at that, today, and wondering what was up.  Well, who knows??  Did you notice the special threaded plumbing pipe stuck on the one shift lever?  That is another mystery.  I know that Daddy never did anything to this jeep except drive it around at about 25 mph and put gas in it.  Significant work will need to be done everywhere, and that includes the body.  I worked on it for about 2 hours, today and managed to get all the bolts holding it to the frame removed.  I was pooped and forgot to take a photo of the small bowl of nuts and bolts.  Some, just were non existent.  A couple of others were what I call danglers.  Whatever they were bolted to is rusted away.  There are a couple like that in hat channels.  The last one to come out was the bolt in the center that holds down seat belts.  The configuration of oversize nuts and washers to space out that long bolt was amazing.  I actually had to get on the creeper to remove that one.  Well, I got the nut off, but the bolt remained.  Hubby stuck his claw hammer under it, and popped it out. Smile  All of the spacers fell to the floor.  He hauled out his farmer's jack and cranked up the passenger side--everything was loose.  Then he cranked up the driver's side.  All was loose over there, too.  I can't believe I found everything holding it down.  There were no bolts holding the rear end down.  We were chatting with friends this afternoon, and I was telling them about my project.  He was wondering who I was, and what I did with his wife.  LOL  He may be taking up decoupage or knitting, as someone in the family is supposed to do that.  I can loan him my Modpodge and knitting needles until I have a project in that direction.  Quite a few more things need to be disconnected from the body before we can remove it.  At some point, we will retrieve his engine lift from another location and rig up some straps to do that.  Steering wheel is the most ominous object at this point.  The wheel will need to be replaced, but I don't want to cut it off.  It has to come off at some point, or I have to replace the entire shaft.  We will start soaking it in "stuff" tomorrow to increase our chances of success.  
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We retrieved the engine lift and some jack stands from another location, today, and put them in the shop.  We had some time, so hubby put the sawzall to work again.  The steering wheel is gone.  Hopefully, we will eventually get the remains of it off the column.  It's small enough, now, to pass through the hole in the floor.  Then, it was time for the crummy Bubba rollbar to get removed.  Act 2 for the sawzall.  I held it at the top while the cutting was being done.  It was heavy!  While I was working on something else, I looked up to see hubby with a large crowbar going after the Bubba gas tank.  For the longest we thought that it was tack welded to the floor, so we have sort of been dancing around it.  That was not tack welding.  It was dirt.  Once it was sort of loose, I got underneath to pull the gas line back toward the tank.  It had been zip tied at some point in about three places which I had to cut off.  We finally got all of the line free, and he pulled the tank out.  It was a bit stubborn.  The Bubba tank had the gas line going directly down through the floor instead of coming off the top like the other tanks that I have seen.  Once the tank was out, I could see that half of New Mexico was under it.  I think that we made progress, today, if demolition and disassembly can be called progress.  


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Originally posted by TeddieG TeddieG wrote:

  The Bubba tank had the gas line going directly down through the floor instead of coming off the top like the other tanks that I have seen.   


Just FYI, on these things the original fuel tank does have the fuel coming out the bottom of the tank. 

If you look at this listing from Kaiser Willys and look at the 3d picture of the tank you can see two bungs in the bottom of the tank. On is a drain plug, and one is the fuel feed. Inside the tank there is a  pickup tube that is an upside down J.

https://www.kaiserwillys.com/category/fuel/tanks/steel-fuel-gas-tank-fits-46-64-cj-2a-3a-3b
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Wow, Stan, thanks for that information.  I do plan to order a new one, so I would have been surprised when I got it.  Tongue  I know nothing about gas tanks, but I'm thinking that the Bubba tank had no way to send info to a gauge to determine fuel level.  It was quite heavy, so there is likely about 2 gals. of murky fuel still in there.  A fuel gauge is a convenience item.  


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Keep up the good work, pictures and commentary.   Your story keeps me coming back for more.
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We are still working away on the jeep.  We were down there for four hours yesterday, and things are happening.  On Wednesday, we started to hoist the tub, but the chains were starting to bend it in.  It was time to stop and do more research.  Anyway, the tub is off.  Other than cutting off the steering wheel, we decided after watching some videos, to remove the steering box.  That worked!  We rolled the frame and motor out to the street and power washed it some more.  It's still filthy.  Now, I have to decide how far I want to dig into this.  Hubby wants to pull out the engine etc. and get down to bare frame.  He had three of the tires and rims off when we left the shop, yesterday.  The rear one on the driver's side is not budging even with an impact wrench.  Any thoughts on that, before we take a torch to it?
Up it goes.


Out in the street.  Up on jack stands.

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Wheel studs on the left side were originally left hand thread. Could that be the problem?
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Originally posted by smfulle smfulle wrote:

Wheel studs on the left side were originally left hand thread. Could that be the problem?

The studs will frequently have an "L" on the end of them, and I think the nuts will have a tick/notch midway up the corner/edges...

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I actually told Hubby that I had read that wheels on the left hand side had left hand threads, because of centrifugal force or something like that.  He ignored me.  So, we headed right to the shop after lunch, and he said that he would have another go at it.  They came right off!!  I did a silent "I told you so."  I got down and cleaned off the studs, and they do have the L's on them.  I spent about two hours chiseling off grime, and it looks sort of better.  I love this forum!!!

It's off!


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So the driver's side front lugs were right-hand threads instead of the original left-hand?  That's kinda annoying.  Oh, and when you go to put the new steering wheel on, don't forget to liberally apply anti-seize to the splines so the next time the wheel comes off it will...come off.


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Yep, the left front came off just like the ones on the right.  The nuts are a couple of different sizes on the outside, and one was missing on front left.  I will be sure to get them all the same size when I redo.  And, yes, anti seize is on my shopping list!  
I am thinking, now, about how I want to store/mount the engine when we pull it.  We have been offered a standard engine stand, but I don't know if we will go that direction.  Tips and suggestions for that will be appreciated.  
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Somewhere there's a drawing of an engine stand made from  2x4's and 2x2's. Here's a couple pics of mine. 
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Before you make one, double check that it will work by measuring the width of your oil pan. I'm pretty sure this is for the Willys, but I made one for my Kohler single too and it's possible this is for that.
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Interesting that only 1 had Left hand thread studs, not not surprising since swapping a front hub is not hard at all.
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