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    Posted: 12 Sep. 2022 at 4:03pm
For the past two weeks I've been driving the jeep to and from work/drill. It's more out of nessecity right now, but it's certainly been alot of fun for the most part. I can say I enjoy driving the back roads more than highway driving, even with an overdrive I don't like dealing with traffic. I have put close to 400 miles on it in just those few weeks

The engine sounds really good, however I want to try and clean my idle up some, it idles without choke now, but it could be smoother. I suspect it's do to an exhaust leak. The jeep has the MB exhaust with the flex pipe which I can feel leaking even if slightly. I also realized I'm missing the bracket that holds the pipe to the skid plate and this allows the pipe to rattle loudly at idle, contributing too the racket.

Having driven in the rain, I can say I enjoy that as well. I would like to work on my cowl seal some just to further "waterproof" everything behind it. It's not a good seal so water gets through unimpeded in some spots.

I am looking forward to changing out to the normal CJ head and bumping my CR up, even slightly. I never had issues with oil pressure, temp, or charging. It reliability starts, stops and shifts and I am having alot of fun with it. I belive the timing cover is leaking and I'd like to address that as well. Does the oil pan have to come off for that?




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I believe the oil pan does have to come off, or at the very least the front edge bolts that go into the timing cover.  The manual has oil pan removal before timing cover removal, but that part of the manual is assuming a full engine tear down. 

If I worked in the town I lived close to I could pull it off but I have to drive 50 miles to work and no matter what route you take the speed limit is 60-70.  


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Originally posted by Downs Downs wrote:

I believe the oil pan does have to come off, or at the very least the front edge bolts that go into the timing cover.  The manual has oil pan removal before timing cover removal, but that part of the manual is assuming a full engine tear down. 

I had figured that; it's not the worst thing, I'd like to replace the cork seal with a felpro one anyway
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The Felpro timing cover gasket kit comes with a partial pan gasket for just that front part of the pan that meets the timing cover. The idea being, you could just remove the bolts in the pan that go into the timing cover and cut that part of the pan gasket off then splice in the section in the kit without removing the entire pan. 
Pulling the pan would give you a better chance of a good seal at the pan, but you can just pull the timing cover without pulling the entire pan.
Here's a link to autozone's listing of the Felpro gasket set with a picture of the gasket section.

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While you have the pan off you might consider taking the oil sump off and cleaning the screen out and truing up the part where it connects to the block. The part tends to sag in the middle and can cause low oil pressure if the slump is bad enough.
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Originally posted by smfulle smfulle wrote:

The Felpro timing cover gasket kit comes with a partial pan gasket for just that front part of the pan that meets the timing cover. The idea being, you could just remove the bolts in the pan that go into the timing cover and cut that part of the pan gasket off then splice in the section in the kit without removing the entire pan. 
Pulling the pan would give you a better chance of a good seal at the pan, but you can just pull the timing cover without pulling the entire pan.
Here's a link to autozone's listing of the Felpro gasket set with a picture of the gasket section.


I wish they would expand the Permadry line to more engines, especially our 134s and some of the old AMC V8s.  That line of gaskets/seals was one of the best things to ever happen to my XJ's 4.0
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Daily driving that jeep is awesome. In the early 80’s my GPW was still in pieces.  The editor of the local paper used her MB for the daily commute and parked it on the street.  It was set up the same as yours with a summer top and NDT’s. She was in her 60’s then and I got to know she and her family through being jeep nutty.  Nice people. I suppose her commute was only a couple of miles and on 25mph roads. 

On the timing cover, I know I changed my timing chain once without dropping the pan. This was long ago and I had negative funds so preserving the gaskets was critical. Dabs of silicone were used at the corners. None of this was ideal but it had to work.  
Turned out the chain clattering was from the chain hitting a dent in the pan. 
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I'm gonna drop the pan when I change the  head, the cork gasket is a bit leaky anyway. Is there a seal around the crank shaft I can change? The oil is dripping from between the two front pulleys, I have a double pulley
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There's a one piece seal in the timing chain cover.  You'll have to pull the pulley and remove the timing chain cover to replace it. 
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