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neptco19
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Posted: 08 Mar. 2006 at 11:49am |
Looking for the specs for the head and also the bolt tighting pattern. Thanks.
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Jason
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sean
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Jason:
The manuals call for 60-70 ft-lbs for bolts, 60-65 ft-lbs for studs. Sean Edited by sean - 22 June 2008 at 3:17pm |
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p3ferris
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I am guessing that it is for the 48 cj2a with a L134. cylinder head bolts 65 to 75 ft.lbs cylinder head nuts 60 to 65 ft. lbs. front to back 15----9----5----7----13 10----3----1----2----12 11----6----4----8----14 hope this helps
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Ed
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p3ferris
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I checked 3 repair manuals from 1948-49 and the torques are as stated by me above. Since there were differences I thought I had better triple check.
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Ed
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neptco19
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Thanks guys.
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Jason
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Paul_B
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If I can also add a bit of advice, I changed my head gasket about two weeks ago (see earlier thread) and used above torques setting. I ended up stripping a thread on a block socket because I oiled the thread (which give a flase and higher torque).
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sean
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Ed:
Which manuals did you find your 65-75 torques in? A '45 manual (which is stud only) calls for 60-65 A '53 manual calls for 60-70 for bolts A '65 manual calls for 60-70 for bolts Sean |
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p3ferris
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Ed
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p3ferris
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I just looked them up again. BOOK 1. page 186 2.page 998 3.page 773 Sean, I used these for my 48 and I had no problem |
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Ed
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neptco19
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Well I went to 65 and had no leaks. So I guess that'll work
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Jason
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sean
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Ed:
So none of these are Willys manuals? Unusual specs. I just checked my 2 Motors manuals, and Chiltons manual. I can find nothing that says 65-75. All three list 60-65 for years 45 through 49. Then beginning 1950, they call for 60-70. All of which jive with the Willys manuals. I think I'd stick with Willys official specs. Sean |
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sean
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Now for my own curiosity,
Has anyone ever heard of a torque spec for the stud-to-block? Sean |
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Ritt
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We build compressors & vacuum pumps here for submarine service and we just shoulder the stud. I have to say our mechanic uses an old hand pneumatic stud driver and a #3 fit for the hole (don't know what Willys used for fit ~2 is std.). No torque, but I think after 30 years, he goes by "feel" . If the fit doesn't feel quiet right in a service job or rebuild, he will use a Loctite (sealer type) to be sure of a good hold (on surface ships). Hope this helps |
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Rit
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sean
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Ritt:
Lacking a torque spec, I figured I'd just have to make sure they're good and tight, but was hoping to find a torque spec. I've worked on studded assemblies before, where if the stud wasn't tightened enough to begin with, it would turn some more when you torqued the nut on it. And if the loctite or other sealant has already set, then this breaks the seal. I want to avoid that. Thanks |
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merc_man
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I loosend a few of the head bolts a while back to take off a few of the things that bolt to the head. Should I take them all loose and retighten in order?
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garage gnome
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No. You can just tighten them up. Your head gasket has already be torqued and squashed.
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Nate
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JeepRoger
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Sean... The 1952 Willys Service Standards booklet, pg 34, says "Cylinder head screws - 60-70ft lbs." Not quite sure what they are referring to. I see nothing in there that specifies torques for cylinder head studs or studs-to-block. And as you already pointed out, "Cylinder head stud nuts - 60-70ft lbs". Text also says "Recheck with engine water at 150°F" (and this subject has come up quite a bit). ...R
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Roger in California
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Giddy Up
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Excuse my ignorance; but does it mean I have to torque the nuts, start the engine and let it run and then re-torque the nuts while the engine is about 150F?
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1946 Willys CJ2A #41921
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