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Ol' Unreliable
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Posted: 06 Sep. 2020 at 11:11pm |
Oh well, if it is stamped WILLYS but has the MB-type hold open arms, then it is a very early civilian w/s frame. It should have the square washers on the front too, I think. MBs did not have WILLYS stamped on the w/s frame.
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There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable
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WellFedHobo
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The windshield is stamped Willys though. Were MBs also stamped that way? Feels more like someone just put an early CJ2A windshield frame on it.
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Ol' Unreliable
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A '48 would have had the "lollipop" type inner frame arms and a latch for holding the inner frame closed. It looks from here like that windshield frame is for an MB or GPW. Also, it's going to be about 2" too low for any 2A top.
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WellFedHobo
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How can you tell? Just curious.
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Ol' Unreliable
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It's not the "correct"windshield frame for a '48, but there it is...
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WellFedHobo
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It's a '48 2A, pretty much all original, though it was resprayed 30-40 years ago. One of the nicest things was that the inner windshield frame was solid, only surface rust.
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Ol' Unreliable
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MB or early CJ2A windshield frame? That Jeep looks really nice from here! I'd have slapped down the cash for that one, no problem!
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WellFedHobo
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So I went out on the local internet and found this for sale...
Barn find fresh. To be continued...
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WellFedHobo
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In an absolute stroke of luck, I managed to find a nearly NOS condition Fulton 06 on ebay. I wasn't even really looking for one, it was just there and I clicked Buy It Now before I could think. We already had an 06 coupler that's powder coated to match the rest of the trailer, but springs and tabs that work are really hard to find since Fulton discontinued the rebuild kits. What we had wasn't really stable enough to trust going down the road because the spring and tab came from a 2 inch coupler of similar vintage. We can now put together one good working coupler (coupling? The side of it literally says coupling but I've always heard of them called couplers...) that has the correct bends and holes to bolt right up and hopefully trust to stay on the ball.
Not sure if it matters but both of these seem to be really early Fulton 06's. They only have one patent stamped on the side with "others pending". Newer ones have all 3 patents listed. Not sure how much they changed over the years. |
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takesiteasy
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Yes, the project turned out very nice. Looking forward to your coming jeep project!
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LuzonRed47
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My vote for 1/4-Ton Trailer of the Year. Very nice work.
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CJ2A #140275 "Ziggie" (purchased new by my dad in 1947)
ACM #124334 CJ3A windshield, Warn Overdrive 1953 Strick M100 trailer Serial #18253 |
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WellFedHobo
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It's some sort of really durable weather resistant boat cover material whose name I forget. Sunbrella, perhaps. Its a breathable material that will still keep the weather out. The tie downs are an idea we saw on someone else's trailer on here. They're just loops cut from a bad tire tube with a knot tied in them to hold them in place. We have a couple of bad tubes to work with so those are just the first draft of the tie down idea.
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Rus Curtis
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That's a real good look! Is that canvas? Explain the tie downs a bit. Are they elastic?
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Rus Curtis
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WellFedHobo
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At long last we can call this one complete for now. The trailer itself has been done for a year but we were still working on the accessories. We have an OD flat tarp (original spec for a T3) that works nicely and can work with the top bows if desired. The side racks and top bows were already fitted and ready to go. We just had to wait for nicer weather to stain and seal.
We chose a Minwax pecan stain with a satin polyurethane finish. It looks pretty good once the final assembly was done. The final piece was a nice cover from Black Dog Designs in Mt. Ida, Arkansas. They had done one for another person on here a few years back so we had them make one for us as well since they were only an hour and a half away. The back photo is a bit dark, but the back panel has zippers something like a modern Jeep cover that let you roll it up and then tie it with a couple of straps. Maybe once this pandemic is over we can actually go somewhere with it. And it may be time to finally find a CJ2A or CJ3A project.
Edited by WellFedHobo - 02 May 2020 at 9:30pm |
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rcrhea
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PM sent.
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canorisa
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Richard...You and your son have gotten farther on your restoration than I have. At the present time I'm in the East Coast and my trailer is sitting in a storage locker in the West Coast. I don't like it but it is what it is at the present time. I heard from Black Dog Designs from another fellow poster here by the name of Jamie, I believe his name was, if I'm not mistaken. He got his done at Black Dog as well and it turned out great! He did shared his drawings with me but I would have to ask permission to share them with you, if you would like to see them. But I don't know if he is still around here, so I don't know how to get in touch with him. I'm planning on having a "chuckwagon" style cover made for my trailer, once it's down here in Florida! from a manufacturer I flagged down on the street one day. I saw one of his vans advertising. They make covers for windows, boats, pools and all other sorts of stuff. I plan on having a zipper type, removable front and rear end caps with see through windows. Well, at least that's the plan anyways. I hope you get yours done first so that I can see the end result. Would you be able to share the dimensions and pictures of yours and prices, of course. Who knows, depending on how much Black Dog quotes you on this job I might go with them as well, if you go with them at all. Let me know. Best of Luck! Joel
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Once a Marine!, Always a Marine!, Semper Fi! - Combat Wounded Vet, Desert Storm/Desert Shield - Persian Gulf 1992
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takesiteasy
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Looks great!
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WellFedHobo
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We intend to stain and seal it. Trying to decide on a final color is difficult. A honey oak kind of color would probably be more period correct but we were also thinking about a light red color.
We hope to have someone make a chuck wagon cover for this. That was the intention from the start (10 years ago!). We do have a military spec flat tarp already for it (seen folded in the picture) specifically so it would match the 4 tie downs per side, and it works with or without the bows. Pictures will happen eventually.
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