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I wish. Gotta rebuild the rear brakes and I need it running cooler. I also gotta put the roll bar and seat belts on.
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Originally posted by Mike Gardner Mike Gardner wrote:

I wish. Gotta rebuild the rear brakes and I need it running cooler. I also gotta put the roll bar and seat belts on.
let me know when you get all that done and we'll go as long as its a weekend.

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Deal!
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Wish I had more pictures on the trail. But  I was the leader of the group. So Not much was taken of me. I will add a few more when I have more time. Here are some video links. It did great. This trip was a "testing" trip. First time out sense I did the lift/tires, Rebuilt engine adapted with the Weber 2brrl. Srry about the one being side ways. I can't figure out a way to rotate it...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qnc3GhR_PE&feature=plcp
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Nice vids. You should go back out and make some more, it looked like fun.




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It was a blast. I'll go out again. Just a matter of time. I have a few things the "adjust" before going back out again. This past trip I flexed it were ever I could to find weak spots and see where it might rub. Not a lot was found I must say. But a few things. Overall I was vary happy with it.
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Mine is definitely not as modified as a lot the others on this thread, but I'll put it on here anyways.  It has 2 inch lift shackles on it and we have added a leaf front packs.  It has an F134 from a later model jeep.  Everything else in the drive line is pretty much stock.  It is a work in progress and I have a bunch of upgrades planned for the next few years but it will never be finished, it's too much fun to work on Big smile.


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it aint' lifted yet (holbrook long-leaf springs going on soon) but I got some new rubber under there :-)  31x9.5x15 TSL Radial Super Swampers.  Man, it rides SOO much smoother now, just switching from bias ply to radial tires.  And I imagine these aren't the smoothest radials out there, haha!  I'm running 22psi right now.  Any suggestions for a good on-road and off-road psi?  From what I gather, these TSL radials are somewhat stiff in the sidewall, so I imagine I could lower the PSI a bit from what one would normally run?  (both on road, and off road?)




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Remember the swamper is soft. Low psi will rip them up. I've only had mine for a year and 5 months and their 1/2 gone.
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More pics guys, vids are great too. 


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Since its a very modified flat fender and had lots of pics......

My trip report.....

Day one. Thursday afternoon.

Everyone made it down to Moab safe, sound, and early. We where ready
to get on the trail about 2-3pm or so. We decided to do the 1st half
of Fins and Things. Overall one of my favorite little testing grounds.
Its short, kinda close to town, not very long, and has lots of fun
stuff to play on. All in all everything went well.

I found out my nice big tire gauge had given up the ghost....bummer. I
aired down to 4psi and kept it there the entire trip. 4psi seemed to
work REALLY well for the Willys. It sure made it ride great! Not too
low though causing a big loss in ground clearance.

I was able to get up the steep little play climb on Fins and Things here....


Green TJ made it and played with his front suckdown, lockers, and
ultra-low gearing to get a feel for things. Silver TJ made it and played
with the suckdown. I made it to my surprise. The climb is steep enough
that is usually causes at least some issues. It just popped right up
in 1st low with maybe just one tire squeak. The sami had some issues
on it. We ended up dropping the tire pressure down into the 3psi range
I think. He basically needed a gear between 1st and 2nd low. The
little engine had a hard time pulling the entire climb. This climb got
him use to moab a bit.....and we tried to get him use to being able to
push in the clutch and roll off stuff when you get hopping.

This was another fun climb on the stairsteps you go down on Fins and Things....



I think Green TJ and I where the only ones to try it. No real problems but
it was fun!

Day two. Friday.

Steelbender, Backwards.

Overall the only real hard part on this trail was 'The Wall'. Most
people run this trail the other way and drop off it....we ran it the
other way and had to go up. You can't really drive right up the wall,
or at least none of us could! We ended up using a fun line off to the
left. This is a decently technical climb in two parts and your kinda
exposed on the 1st part with a drop off to your left. The 2nd climb is
pretty decent too requiring the right line and a tight turn at the
top....





Everyone made it. The sami had some slight issues getting the right
line on the top half.

All in all this trail really isn't THAT fun. It has a LOT of really
bumpy sections that are boring. If I where to do it again I would cut
off the extra loop. Overall not high on my priority list again....

There was a Jeep Jamboree run going on the same day. I'm glad we made
it up The Wall before we met them around lunch time. Then a pair of
ATVs showed up and almost tried killing themselves. Green TJ and I got
them around and down the difficult section and sent them on there way
for better or worse. It was kinda crazy overall, but a good karma boost.

Day Three. Saturday.

Pritchett Canyon.

The most extreme trail we tried. The short version. We winched a lot!

It was just the Willys and the Jeeps on this one. Sami driver rode along with
me. I really liked this trail but it was WAY above what out vehicles
where capable of in my opinion. The major obstacles are Chewy hill,
Rocker Knocker, Axle hill, Rock Pile, and Yellow hill.

Everyone in the group had to winch Chewy hill. It is way bigger and
harder than it looks in the pictures. The 1st half is a funky little
climb  with multiple kicker ledges. then you have to make an turn and
get lined up for the 2nd part. The 2nd part is a sharp 2-3 ledge climb
where you are pretty exposed over the 1st part of the climb. I was
able to pull off a pretty sweet rear dig in 2wd hi to get lined up on
the ledge better. Everyone made it up safe with a winch.

Me playing around on Chewie....


That is about as far as I made it.....

Next was Rocker Knocker after a few little play things.

Rocker Knocker was covered in about an inch of sand. Doug and I both
worked it pretty hard. I must have tried about 5 different lines. I
just couldn't get my front end to grab the top most part and pop over
to the left and into the pocket. Oh well, it was fun anyways. Green TJ
pretty much had the same problems I did so another 9" of wheelbase
didn't make THAT much of a difference. Everyone took the bypass, even
it was hard!

Rocker Knocker bypass. Made it with Silver TJ's excellent spotting and Green TJ working to find the line before me while I was playing on Rocker
Knocker :)

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Axle hill.

Everyone winched up. This thing is kinda stupid big!


Similar to chewy hill but steeper and tighter. A step climb to start
with a turn and more ledges at the top.

Rock Pile.

There is a super big climb that nobody in our group tried. We where
trying to stay ahead of another group at this point and waiting for a
group of side by sides coming down. Green TJ almost made the 'bypass' but
ended up needing a little bit of winch help. I ALMOST was able to get
up with my narrow track width but needed some strap help. Silver TJ ended
up taking the strap too. Then we stopped for lunch and waited for the
side by sides to go past.

Yellow hill.

This one was kinda interesting. There is a multi-part climb to the
right that Green TJ tried but we go the feeling that line wasn't going to
work. There is a LONG climb on the left side. Green TJ was first and drove
it. It is a weird climb that requires a little bump at the bottom and
then followed by a pretty dang long climb that isn't quite as steep as
the bottom but with some little shelves at the end. It gets your blood
pumping. Green TJ made it in 2nd low. I used 2nd low also. You bump the
bottom part and then roll through the rest of the climb. It felt GOOD
to make the last obstacle on Pritchett! Silver TJ did it also. His
automatic did a little bit of a 1-2 shift bump thing but he made it no
problem.

The Willys on the bottom getting set up....


Willys at the top.....


There was a little redneckery that was following us up the trail. We
tried to help and stay clear at the same time...

After a long drive back to the highway we got to play in some small
dunes a little bit. I don't think anyone got any pictures, we where
all having too much fun!

Day Four.

2nd half of Fins and Things.
Hells Revenge.

We got a pretty decent start in the morning. It was our last day so we
decided to run something fairly familiar. The 2nd half of Fins and
Things is a fun trail. In the Future we will take the 1st turnoff and
cut off the little loop on the north end of the trail. It is just
bumpy stuff with nothing hard. The last part of the trail is pretty
fun with some decent climbs. Everyone did great. I think everyone made
everything also.

Green TJ had a hill he wanted to get back on near the end of the trail
that gave him issues last year. He went right up it....so did I...so
did the Sami....so did Silver TJ. Weird.

Green TJ hill.....


Then it was off to Hells Revenge....

Just a fun trail in general.

Green TJ and Silver TJ both did Hells Gate. I passed. I watched both of them do it....did some math on wheelbase difference and passed for now. I did
take the 1st leg down into the bottom and back out again, that was
fun.


The big fun of Hells revenge was Escalator. We all got out and looked
at it for about 20 minutes. I did a lot of mental math and decided to
try it 1st. The Willys was basically a perfect fit. It basically
walked the entire thing. I had one stumble at the top where I felt
like I was going to get punched in the face by the rock wall. I stuck
my hand outside of the cage without thinking to brace myself.....dumb
I know! The Willys stalled at that point but I was able to starter
start it in 1st low. It restarted and continued the rest of the climb.

Right about where I had my face wall hand incident...


Green TJ made it next. He had some flare to wall issues but nothing THAT
major. He ended up using his crawler box after readjusting his line
slightly. His rear flare took a pretty hard scrape.

Silver was next. He had a few small issues on the lower part. His line
was just off for the 2nd climb out of the little water hole. His rear
end was just to far left. He tried a few times with and without the
suckdown winch....tried walking the tire off the wall, etc. In the end
he took the winch line from Green TJ

The last fun thing on the trail is Tip over Challenge.

Everyone made it. I had a weird line and slipped the front end
slightly. I was able to drive out of it with a quick spot from Doug.

Me on the tipover challenge....


Then the long bumpy ride out the end of Hells Revenge that we all
where loathing at that point.....

Had a great dinner that night around the campfire, packed up, and
headed home the next morning....
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Moar!!!!!

Playing around on Rocker Knocker.....


Random drop off on Pritchett Canyon. You have to take a very odd angle hugging the wall at the top to get squared up enough to drop off....



Misc play area on Steel Bender....


More of Tip Over Challenge on Hells Revenge....



Playing around in the easy hot tub on Hells Revenge....


Rocker Knocker bypass....getting lined up...


Compared to your not so average TJ. Both have 'highlines' and 35s! 


Another bad angle of Escalator on Hells Revenge...

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AWESOME PICS. I was waiting to see these on pirate, but logged on here first. 

Think of how much more fun it would be with the D18 under drive you are working on....


Nice pics. I will be staring at them all day
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Originally posted by silverbullet72tnt silverbullet72tnt wrote:

AWESOME PICS. I was waiting to see these on pirate, but logged on here first. 

Think of how much more fun it would be with the D18 under drive you are working on....


Nice pics. I will be staring at them all day

Honestly the 75:1 gearing with the 225 Buick and 35" tires worked fantastic. I don't know if I would have used the underdrive anywhere. I used 1st low on technical stuff with great success. 2nd low worked really good for things that required a little more momentum. 

I'm not saying I won't have the underdrive for the spring though ;)


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I was going to ask about your gearing over "there", but since it came up, I'll ask here. How does it do on the road sections and the technical stuff.

Mine is currently set-up with an 88 to one or so crawl ratio on 33's, I am just worried about road time getting to the trail, but I think once I get there it'll be ok..

More pics if you got em!

Any vids?
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