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    Posted: 12 May 2013 at 5:25pm
After a forum search, and reading Sean's data-base...(maybe track it also?),
 
I can't seem to find when the metal spoke steering wheel gave way to the full covered spoke wheel.
 
any one tracking that info?
 
thanks.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samcj2a Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2013 at 11:36pm
Jim,

I cannot find any documentation of the serial number or date after which the change was made.  I think that I am safe to assert that all column shift CJ-2As came with the metal spoke steering wheel.

Lowenuf may be able to find something in the BOM.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Kilbourne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 1:54am
thanks for the reply sam...

that is an interesting, plausible idea...

i have 26592 and 33752 column shifts that had solid wheels....no way to guarantee factory installs....more probable on 33752....

with no other info my mind just figured it was only a first few thousand thing....

and so the need to know as i gather restoration parts
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samcj2a Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 2:27am
In that case, it seems unlikely that 2 column shift Jeeps that you'd have would have both have had their steering wheels swapped out.   In view of that, then I'd have to hypothesize that the metal spoked wheels were no longer being used before your earlier Jeep was made. 

I send lowenuf a message about this so hopefully he'll be able to help pin it down.

I wish I knew the serial number of my first 2A.  I was a column shift, no tools indents and had the metal spoked wheel.


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Steering wheel assembly, part #640760 (wire spoke) and it's respective parts were designated to be used for the 1st 28,070 vehicles.....
 
640760 being superceeded by #641970 (Sheller) along with it's respective parts were designated for use after the 1st 28,070......
 
The call to usage for #640760 on the 1st 28,070 cars was dated 12/13/45...........
45 #10012
45 #10033 ACM #47
45 #10163 ACM #188
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Thanks, Mike!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WVCAHILLBILLY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 3:09am
For my input mine is 29385 column shift with a solid Sheller, I was thinking mine is original to my rig
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Is it safe to assume then that the metal spoke was standard military and the subsequent surplus was used up in the CJ?
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Originally posted by scoutpilot scoutpilot wrote:

Is it safe to assume then that the metal spoke was standard military and the subsequent surplus was used up in the CJ?
 
 
 
that is hard to say..... i personally would say no, because the military steering wheels were green, and the 2A versions were black....
 
most of the early ones (spoke) i have seen from 2A's show no greenish hue like those faded from an MB...
 
i would lean towards same manufacturer, but not military leftover surplus...
 
again, just my opinion...
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The other very strong clue to support lowenuf's belief is that the civilian wheel is different in some fashion from the military wheel (likely color) because it does not have a military part number (beginning with "A-."  All the known military part carryovers do begin with "A-."
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Thanks Mike, Sam and all who replied/will reply...
 
this is good stuff!...
 
I do have a metal spoke wheel and it appears to have black plastic, not a faded green, etc.
 
so one of mine will get the metal spoke and one will get the covered spoke...
 
Sheller was the vendor for both styles...
 
I wonder if the post war release of GOV controls on war-time rare/raw materials/rationing of same had any influence on this subject? That is, back to full covered spokes?
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Originally posted by lowenuf lowenuf wrote:

Steering wheel assembly, part #640760 (wire spoke) and it's respective parts were designated to be used for the 1st 28,070 vehicles.....
640760 being superceeded by #641970 (Sheller) along with it's respective parts were designated for use after the 1st 28,070......
The call to usage for #640760 on the 1st 28,070 cars was dated 12/13/45...........


Mike, are you saying the change was around Serial Number 38070 since the VINs started at 10k?

I don't see any reference to this change in the
http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/uploads/690/Changes_by_serial_number_and_part_number.pdf

Should this steering wheel change be added to that document?

As far as my vehicles, 26448 has what I believe is referenced as the full covered spoke wheel.  Of course the steering wheel could have been replaced over time, but all in all the vehicle is very original.  

18092 has the wire spoke wheel, as I recall.
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