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Bruce W
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Posted: 10 Jan. 2014 at 3:35am |
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If there's a problem with the accelerator pump piston, it will not cause a rich condition, but rather a lean condition on acceleration. All the round objects in your latest picture are gaskets made of fiber, copper, or aluminum, except maybe the small, lower left one, which goes between the choke housing and the bowl cover on the 2GC. Again, not in the carburetor, not exposed to fuel, and if broken or gone will only result in a small vacuum leak (causing a slightly lean condition) and cause the choke pull-off not to work properly. It would not affect the choke once the choke begins to warm up. But then, you mentioned the 2G, which doesn't have this at all. BW
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jeepfreak81
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The accelerator pump piston in a Rochester 2G (pretty sure thats rubber on the bottom), and the O-rings in the rebuild kit. |
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Bruce W
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I hate to disagree, but I do. I've overhauled Rochester carburetors until I could do them in my sleep, and don't remember any o-rings on the power piston or power valve, or any diaphragm of any kind anywhere. Nor does the picture you posted a link to show any. If the power piston is stuck in the down position, it would cause a rich condition.
I will admit that there is one rubber part on the carb (not in it), the idle vent valve, that will have no effect on the carb's operation, in fact it was eliminated on later carbs. BW Edited by Bruce W - 08 Jan. 2014 at 12:07am |
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jeepfreak81
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Pretty sure the piston has a rubber gasket on it from when I rebuilt it a few years ago. If it leaks I think it will run rich. It appears there is a power valve diaphragm too... |
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Bruce W
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There's no "rubber" in the Rochester either, except maybe the accelerator pump piston. BW
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I wasn't aware of the Rochester on the six.
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jeepfreak81
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It has a 225 with a Rochester carb. If I keep the choke closed longer it will not run smooth in the slightest, even in sub zero weather once it starts I can't go past 1/3 choke or it hates me. The engine never will really warm up, even with a 190* stat in it, never did with the L head radiator on the 225, and even now with the aluminum radiator. I need to try cardboard next I guess. Part of the problem is a fixed blade mechanical fan in the most recent additions. The heat riser for the air cleaner is long gone. It never used to do it even in the coldest days, I think the power valve in the Rochester carb is leaking. It was running ridiculously rich even on the hot summer days this year. I get a pretty hot spark with the Pertronix, but I probably could go to a hotter plug.
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You may be needing to keep the choke closed for a longer time to aid in the warm up, that will cause some fouling of the plugs. There are also a few other things to consider. 1. If you are running a WO, there is no rubber in it. 2. If moisture is condensing in the fuel it could be freezing in the carb passages and/or the Venturi. 3. Make sure your heat riser valve is functioning correctly. 4. If everything is right, then you may just need hotter plugs.
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mikec4193
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I am in love with that Willys Jeep of yours....me being the patina hound that I am...yours is a classic for sure...yes I agree with the carb issues...sometimes a can of "seafoam" will help with your fuel troubles....
MikeC
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For being a pieced together mess essentially, it is pretty rock solid reliable. I do think the ethanol in our fuel is starting to monkey with the rubber in the carb though. It started running very rich recently and fouling plugs.
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Old Boy
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Rough and ready, love it!
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About 7* F earlier today with a windchill in the negative zone. She isn't a stock much of anything, but it is all Jeep.
Snow duty... The rear winch and rack (about 200lbs total) add a nice ballast and made plowing much easier. same jeep different top. |
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Old Boy
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I block off the lower 7 to 8" of my radiator this time of year. This picks the engine temperature back up from 140 to 180 to 190F.
Just on a different note I love the way my KJ CRD fires up in the cold weather. It requires 2.5 seconds of preheat, cranks a little longer than normal then fires up with enthusiasm! It makes a great noise is you like diesels
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Carsandguns
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No not at all. This is extreme weather for all of us but you guys certainly got it worse than we did.
Different areas have their strengths and weaknesses. For example up until the embarrassing Super Bowl mess TXDOT had only a hand full of snow plows in DFW. They have bought more BUT not nearly enough for us to be able to handle a serous snow storm. I don't think I have ever seen a snow blower except for on TV. One of our main problems is we rarely get just snow. Usually winter storms are ice first then snow. The last storm we had before Christmas the ice was 3-4"+ thick. They were using road graders with what looked like iron spikes welded on to try and break it up. The sun would start to melt the ice but it stayed below freezing so what we ended up with was a glaze of super slick ice that was hard to even walk on much less drive. I love the videos of you guys blazing through the snow drifts. That looks like great fun. |
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Carsandguns
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I think I would seriously freeze to death in weather like that. It was 12 here this morning with the wind chill around zero. Saturday it was around 70. This morning was the coldest day in 3-4 years. I started my F250 about 30 min before taking the kids to school. (I know - very wasteful and not very green friendly!). I was a little nervous that I didn't plug it in last night but it cranked fine. I did notice that it idled higher than normal for the first 45 min of my 1.5 hr commute and you could hear the turbos more.
I do love to snow ski but that is way different than wrenching on the Jeep or driving it without a heater. Do you block the radiator with card board or something to restrict the airflow? I just read that many flights at DFW are delayed due to frozen jet fuel. Wow. 112 in the summer is miserable also but we can still function. 12 not so much. |
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Thanks Mike, I will be watching your build, sounds like a good plan. I have a 48 Willys 4 WD truck quite complete and planning on restoring it starting this year (a New Year resolution) when I get this 47 CJ completed. There is just something about those Willys trucks and wagons that have appeal.
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