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smfulle 
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 Topic: Good ride - bad resultPosted: 09 Sep. 2015 at 4:41pm |
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I finally got my wife to go with me for a ride. We drove up to Inspiration Point, a really neat overlook near Willard Peak just north of Ogden Utah. It's 13 miles of dirt road to get there. Nothing really challenging but it does bounce you around a bit.
After we made it up (see pictures below) and back down, on the highway headed home at top speed, my oil pressure dropped some and I started to get what I think is a rod knock. It's really bumming me out because I don't think I can get the engine out and fixed before the deer hunt next month. Which is one of my favorite times to have Grampa's Jeep in action. I love hauling everyone all over the mountain.  It was a bit of a hazy day. The smoke from all the fires going on all over the west is keeping visibility down some these days. Here are the pictures: Looking east.  Still looking east.  This is looking north, the valley that you can almost see through the haze is Cache Valley, where the town of Logan Utah, and home of Utah State University is located.  Looking south over the towns of North Ogden and Ogden. The main peak you see on the left of this picture is Mount Ogden. Just on the other side of Mount Ogden is Snow Basin ski resort where a bunch of Olympic events were held when the games were here in Utah.  This is another shot looking east. The road you see across the canyon is part of the road that we drove up.  This shot looking southwest has my wife in the foreground and through the haze you can sort of see Antelope Island in the Great Salt Lake to the left and the smaller island to the right is Fremont Island.  If you are ever in the Ogden Utah area, this is a great little ride that any 4X4 can do. I even saw a Subaru wagon parked at the top. It's a little rough for a sedan, but once back in the 70's we made it up there in a Pinto. The road is has been torn up some since then though. There are great views all along the route from the top to the bottom.
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rocnroll
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Posted: 09 Sep. 2015 at 4:48pm |
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Pretty scenery
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jpet
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Posted: 09 Sep. 2015 at 5:11pm |
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Nice pics and thx 4 posting. Sorry about your bad luck on the motor. That was a replacement motor wasn't it?
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Posted: 09 Sep. 2015 at 5:18pm |
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Great pics. Maybe you could just change the bearing of the knocking rod to buy you some time to get through the hunting season.
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smfulle
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Posted: 09 Sep. 2015 at 5:35pm |
Yes, this is the motor we found in a shop on a stand that had been used for years in schools as a demo engine. It has been running smooth and strong with great oil pressure and steady temperature readings since I put it in. I really am surprised that this problem has come up. I haven't done any real trouble shooting or investigation since we got back from the ride. I've been a little busy with other stuff and also have been pouting a bit. Probably won't have any time to really look at it until next week. I was planning on pulling the transmission and transfer case out this winter to try and get some leaks stopped that have developed. (This will be the 4th time out for the transmission trying to stop leaks and such. I guess i'm a bit of a bad mechanic.) I guess I'll just start early and pull the whole drive train out in one piece and then work on everything. I have another project going where my machinist neighbor is going to make me some dual wheel spacers. I'm getting the long studs from Joe DeYoung. Once they are all ready I was hoping to take Grampa's Jeep up to the sand dunes near St.Anthony Idaho to see if the dual wheels made any difference in the sand. I guess the test is going to have to wait till next year. Here's some rigs in the St. Anthony sand. Edited by smfulle - 09 Sep. 2015 at 6:30pm |
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Posted: 09 Sep. 2015 at 9:09pm |
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Awesome pics Stan... Thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear about the engine troubles. At least pull the pan and see how bad it is. Maybe if your crank is still in reasonable shape you can get away with a partial in the chassis rebuild for the time being to get through deer season. Hoping for the best for you.
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LuzonRed47
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Posted: 10 Sep. 2015 at 12:08am |
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Stan, what size NDTs is Grampa's Jeep wearing--7.00 x 16's? They look great.
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Posted: 10 Sep. 2015 at 4:43am |
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Thanks for the photos! That haze is a good/average day in the east. :)
Good luck on the engine.
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smfulle
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Posted: 10 Sep. 2015 at 6:32am |
Yup 7.00 X 16 NTD's. I bought them from Summit Racing |
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Posted: 10 Sep. 2015 at 2:58pm |
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I have a little experience running a stock 2a in the dunes. I took the NDTs off and replaced them with 15" wheels that were 8" wide with car radials on them aired way down. I was surprised at where it would go set up like this. Not sure if the NDTs would have fared as well. Forget about climbing dunes like in your video clip.
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Posted: 10 Sep. 2015 at 4:23pm |
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Low-pressure flotation tire technology hadn't arrived when the MB/GPW first entered combat, nor was it really available when the 2A debuted. Some early experiments used tires from small aircraft; don't know how successful they were. In WWII, the British LRDG (Long Range Desert Group) commandos who operated jeeps in the North African theater used NDTs on stock 6-in. wheels; the success of these vehicles is well documented:
 The LRDG jeep shown here is clearly not in deep "sand dune" conditions but, as Otto notes, tackling such conditions in our vintage jeeps today are probably better tackled with 8-in. 15's.  I prefer the look of NDTs on a stock 60-hp 2A, and for most conditions except slick pavement, ice, snow (without chains) and sand, they perform pretty well, as JPet's recent Ouray-Telluride videos prove.
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Posted: 10 Sep. 2015 at 7:49pm |
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Loved the pictures and really like the jeep!!!
Looks like they should in my opinion, well used but well cared for as well. A nice looking paint job can be done but that kind of patina has to be earned.. Sorry about the rod knock, sounds like it could have happened at a better time.  Mike |
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Posted: 10 Sep. 2015 at 8:21pm |
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The Military experimented with many tire/wheel combinations for Sand Flotation. Bob W's research has some cool photos. There was a production option of 13" tires for USMC Jeeps that is rarely spoken of or seen.
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Posted: 10 Sep. 2015 at 8:54pm |
Where would one go to look at some of Bob's research?
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Posted: 10 Sep. 2015 at 9:53pm |
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I'll ask him when he plans to share it, or ask permission if I can.
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Posted: 24 Sep. 2015 at 10:26pm |
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If your doing an in chassis fix pop the front cover off and take the oil squirter out if the hole is the larger original stock size and get it welded up and drill the recommended smaller size to increase oil flow to the front rod bearing.
FYI-read the thread by gunslinger in this post. Edited by jeeper50 - 24 Sep. 2015 at 10:44pm |
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Posted: 28 Sep. 2015 at 11:25pm |
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original hole size is .070, new smaller hole is .040 this is assuming your engine has a gear driven camshaft
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Belleview ol skool winch soon. '48 CJ2A 283 V8 sm 420 granny low, tera low D18, overdrive,lockers Texan at heart,Alabama by retirement |
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