Update and Starter?

Ok, yesterday I got to work the Willys again.  I adjusted on the carb a little and got it to start and run really smooth!  So, the next step was to replace the ignition switch wiring, since I've been using a remote starter up to this point.  Got the wires replaced and gave it a try.  I started right up, so I decided to put the rear end on jack stands to see if the clutch and transmission would do anything.  With the engine running i tried to put in gear without using the clutch and wouldn't go in, so i pushed the clutch in and it seemed to go in.  I slowly let out on the clutch without pressing the accelerator and it stalled.  I restarted and tried again giving it some gas and it made a grinding noise and stalled.  Tried it again and the same thing.  It almost sounded like the transfer case, so I was going to try again while moving the transfer case lever around, but when I hit the starter button - nothing.  I checked my wiring and everything seemed to check out, so I checked the starter and it seems dead.  It has ground, so I jumped it directly to the battery and got nothing.  Am I missing something or do these starters just go dead like that?  Is this because of a 6 volt starter on a 12 volt system?  Should I try to have it rebuilt or just by a new one?

TERRY wrote: First, try whacking the starter near the brush end with a piece of wood or a dead blow hammer, and try turning the crankshaft with a wrench in case the starter drive is hung up. If that doesn't work, you should examine the starter on the bench to determine the problem. Are the brushes stuck, armature shorted/burnt, field shorted, etc.

"With the engine running i tried to put in gear without using the clutch and wouldn't go in, so i pushed the clutch in and it seemed to go in.  I slowly let out on the clutch without pressing the accelerator and it stalled.  I restarted and tried again giving it some gas and it made a grinding noise and stalled.  Tried it again and the same thing.  It almost sounded like the transfer case, so I was going to try again while moving the transfer case lever around, but when I hit the starter button - nothing."  I checked my wiring and everything seemed to check out, so I checked the starter and it seems dead.  It has ground, so I jumped it directly to the battery and got nothing.  Am I missing something or do these starters just go dead like that?  Is this because of a 6 volt starter on a 12 volt system?  Should I try to have it rebuilt or just by a new one?[/QUOTE]

Edited by SJ21XDC - 29 Feb. 2016 at 11:05pm

48willys wrote: Tranny could be stuck in gear and when you shift it its putting it in two gears at once, check and see if the transfer case is in neutral. If it is I would guess that's the case, otherwise it would try to take off when you start it and that wouldn't be it. Only other thing I can think, how cold was it when you were working on it? Could be water is froze in the gear boxes and keeping it from moving.

48willys wrote: I wouldn't pull it just yet, put it neutral and take the shifter top off, take a look and maybe snap a pic to post here. It could just be the shifter cap needs some work and you can avoid pulling the tranny for now.

The "top" shaft won't spin free unless the TC is in neutral.
You could fill it with diesel fuel and move everything around to get a good flush, but I don't know how to tell if it should have a rebuild.
In the photos, the trans appears to be in neutral. Be sure the sliding gear is not engaged with 1st or reverse.

Only thing I can think is the bearing is locked up in the rear of the transmission. If the drive shafts are turning freely, the bottom half of the transfer case is free and I doubt the intermediate gear would lock that bad . Maybe pull the gear off in the transfer case behind the PTO cover and see if the transmission turns then.

48willys wrote: Only thing I can think is the bearing is locked up in the rear of the transmission. If the drive shafts are turning freely, the bottom half of the transfer case is free and I doubt the intermediate gear would lock that bad . Maybe pull the gear off in the transfer case behind the PTO cover and see if the transmission turns then.

SJ21XDC wrote:   A couple of questions.  Would you drop the transmission/TC or just take the tub off?  I've never messed with a transmission before.  How difficult are these to rebuild? Thanks, Steve