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    Posted: 22 July 2017 at 10:40pm
I would like to get some opinions on how often and on what you guys use clear coat.

I have two projects going on right now (see the list below). All require painting stuff. Its a lot of wire wheel, sand blasting, miracle paint, rust barrier, etc. All those paints are not UV-resistant, but a lot of them are not really "body", so... 

What of the following would you clear coat for UV protection:

- CJ2A frame
- CJ2A rear axle
- CJ2A rear axle backing plates
- CJ2A air filter housing (always under the hood, never in sunlight)
- anything else in CJ2A compartment (I already clear coated the block and head because otherwise why would they make clear coat for block and head??? Cool)
you get the idea

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- 8N ford tractor air filter housing - mounted on the side of the motor, will get occasional sunlight
- 8N ford battery tray - under the hood, air and rain can get to it but not much UV...
- 8N transmission bellhousing - you sit on it, definitely some sunlight...


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Konstan,

The original stuff was probably painted with enamel and baked. 

The hot rod guys do a thing they call Wetting.  Clean it  to metal, apply an etching primmer, let it get tacky, put down a few coats of black while they are tacky - then spray on clear coat.   If it is a small item they bake it at about 200 degrees for 20 minutes and let it cool.  Install it the same day.  This can be done with rattle cans if need be.






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Originally posted by konstan konstan wrote:

I would like to get some opinions on how often and on what you guys use clear coat.

I have two projects going on right now (see the list below). All require painting stuff. Its a lot of wire wheel, sand blasting, miracle paint, rust barrier, etc. All those paints are not UV-resistant, but a lot of them are not really "body", so... 

What of the following would you clear coat for UV protection:

- CJ2A frame
- CJ2A rear axle
- CJ2A rear axle backing plates
- CJ2A air filter housing (always under the hood, never in sunlight)
- anything else in CJ2A compartment (I already clear coated the block and head because otherwise why would they make clear coat for block and head??? Cool)
you get the idea

and...

- 8N ford tractor air filter housing - mounted on the side of the motor, will get occasional sunlight
- 8N ford battery tray - under the hood, air and rain can get to it but not much UV...
- 8N transmission bellhousing - you sit on it, definitely some sunlight...
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I only clear coat metallic bases. With a base/clear system it's easier to get the metallic to set right. If you're just painting solid colors, I might suggest a higher quality paint that can withstand the UV. 
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I didn't bother to clear coat my brushed-on Rust-Oleum.  Now, since I can't get it to run worth a darn, it just sits in the garage and UV isn't a problem.  A simple but unsatisfactory solution... Unhappy
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Clearcoat? Uhmmm... don't think so.


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Clear coat and Willy's don't mix. I would stay away from it unless you are building a high power custom willy's show piece. BTW ,Clear coat is always the first to break down  in the sun . just look at about every car that 5 years old that has a clear coat ,unless its kept in a garage.
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The only thing I consider clear coat on is the exterior of the body. You shouldn't have to worry about UV protection if you use a quality paint. Base coat /clear coat is about the easiest way to get a nice job. I'm doing a 2a now with single stage urethane, it along with acrylic enamel and base/clear can all be wet sanded and buffed if need be. Clear coat is more money though. My 2 cents.
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I'm not a fan of clear coats. My brother had a silver BMW about 40 years ago and the clear coat was peeling off of it. My neighbors had Ford van and as the clear coat went away the paint went with it My Chevy van is white and the clear coat makes the hood look like garbage
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I used clear coat with a flattener for a matte finish.
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I too have things with the clear coat peeling. One is a 1982 Mercedes 300D and it's peeling on the roof only; the other is a 1995 dodge truck and the hood has lost most of its clear coat. It has been my assumption that in both cases they didn't do a good job originally and that's why it is peeling... What I probably need to think of next is, will I be able to to a better job than Mercedes or Chrysler did............
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Early clear coat was not very, Ford had a big problem with their pickups when they first started with it. The new stuff seems to be a big improvement, unless you live somewhere that is hotter than the surface of the sun.
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At least one of the Cj2As in this picture is clear coated.  I would guess all three are - but the green one has 2 coats of primer, 3 coats of color and 2 coats of clear coat on the frame and body.  The paint job is 12 plus years old.
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let's see, page 42 of the Willys restoration bible says........don't clear coat unless you want a visit from the jeep police.
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Originally posted by damar2yxr damar2yxr wrote:

......don't clear coat unless you want a visit from the jeep police.

They better bring a warrant LOL
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Originally posted by mbullism mbullism wrote:

Originally posted by damar2yxr damar2yxr wrote:

......don't clear coat unless you want a visit from the jeep police.

They better bring a warrant LOL

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I actually used a satin clear coat to knock down the gloss on this one.  It gives it a bit of an Old School feel.  

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Originally posted by Ol' Unreliable Ol' Unreliable wrote:

I didn't bother to clear coat my brushed-on Rust-Oleum.  Now, since I can't get it to run worth a darn, it just sits in the garage and UV isn't a problem.  A simple but unsatisfactory solution... Unhappy


I sprayed mine ( May have been Krylon) I used a glossy clear coat and hated how it looked. Too shiny So I just sprayed the flat green over the gloss. After sitting outside for 3 plus years it has faded a lot. Re-sprayed it almost a year ago.   
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