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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nofender Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan. 2018 at 11:09am
Looking good! Damn you work fast! Looking forward to color shots. 
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Nothing better than a father son project like this.  It builds character for him, teaches him to use his hands, and he will make priceless memories with Dad.  And if you guys are lucky it will be something that perhaps he and his son can refurbish in 40 to 50 years or so too.
These jeeps will literally go on forever if the parts do.  Keep a great scrap book and notes and Jeep On!

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Thanks guys! Im getting excited to see some color too! Yes, I hope my kids remember these times and take something away from it. And I would love to see this jeep get passed on and enjoyed by their kids some day. 
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The weather was in my favor today. 45 degrees and the sun started peeking out. I warmed up the shop, and started prepping. I had to seal the seams and scuff the primer. By the time I finished that the garage was up to 70f. I did 4 coats on the floor and 3 on everything else. Paint turned out good! I also finished the wheels while I had the shop warmed up. As soon as the tires get here I will put them on....but until then I had to see how the wheels look with the color. I love it! Im very pleased. Now I have a million small pieces to clean and paint and start bolting stuff to the tub (once the paint cures)

I know how you guys like pictures.....so I took a bunch! 














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Looks great, love the colors. 
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Looks fantastic! I really like the color combo. Very nice. 
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Be sure to put a pinstripe on the wheels so it doesn't look like a VW.  Smile
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looks awesome 
Thanks for all the pics 
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THanks! Im glad you like it! 

Today I just cleaned and painted some small misc parts. Then I went to the hardware store.

The wood stove works great to help paint dry. "sorry honey, I dont know where that smell is coming from"




This is what $26 looks like in case you were wondering. 


I got a bunch of stainless hardware to install the little parts.







Toolbox lid painted and installed.


I even found and reused the old canvas steering column wrap! 






So here is my current problem. The tub bolts are ail in but loose, the tube is centered on the frame, but the steering column doesnt line up in the tub. I can push it to the side enough to get the steering wheel on, but Im guessing it should be perfectly centered. I can slide the tub over but then it until its centered but then the tub will be off center. 

You can see in this picture how the shaft favors the right side of the tube. 



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Looks really good!! I can definitely tell you do not sleep much.. You have been progressing so fast.

Is that a Ford Gray like you would see on an old 2N (the darker shade gray)?
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Thanks! Its actually more of a blue "dove blue" VW color. The camera on my phone makes it look really grey in the shop. I will get some daylight photos once the wheels are on and I can roll it outside. 


Originally posted by ggordon49 ggordon49 wrote:

Looks really good!! I can definitely tell you do not sleep much.. You have been progressing so fast.

Is that a Ford Gray like you would see on an old 2N (the darker shade gray)?
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You're missing the bearing at the top of the steering tube.  But even with that installed, I wonder if the  steering shaft is just bent a little bit?
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I have the bearing it’s just not installed. I put a straight edge on the shaft it appeares to be perfect. Also it doesn’t wobble when I turn the front wheels. If I slide the tub 3/4” to the right the shaft is in the middle of the tube.....but then my tub is off center and my body mounts and trans opening is off. I didn’t notice this when I fitted the body because I never installed the body mount bolts and the steering column bracket at the same time. That was a mistake, but I really don’t know what I would have done to correct it. Hmmmm
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Ah Yes, Looks Awesome!!! Thanks for sharing.
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Is the surface of the tube that attaches at the top of the steering gear box is not "square"?   You could try loosening the three bolts and lower clamp, center up the shaft, install the bearing then tighten the clamp and bolts back up.

The steering gear box was also originally shimmed between the box and the frame...to adjust the overall steering assembly angle.  Not sure this is related to your problem though.
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I like athawk11's idea of shimming out the steering gear box.  A few washers between the frame and the steering box just might fix the positioning issue.  I wonder if you turn the steering shaft, if it remains on the left.  If it does the washer / shim idea might work.  If the steering shaft moves when turned something is bent or something is missing in the assembly most probably.
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thanks guys! The shimming idea helped me because it made me look at my steering box mount... There was a washer someone else had used to shim the box before. I took that out, loosened all the mounting bolts and the column mount bolts on the dash. I wiggled everything thing around then re-tightened everything and centered the tub. Now it is only slightly off center in the column tube, and can be easily moved to center with one finger. Major improvement. I dont believe the shaft is bent. It stays in one spot when it spins.  


I installed the bearing. Not impressed with the quality or construction of this piece, but it seems to do the job. 


Spring in place


I put the wheel on to test everything. It seems fine. I am surprised how snug the wheel is on the tube. The previous owner put POR-15 or something on the tube so the ID is probably a little bigger than normal. 

I didn't put the wheel on very far because I didn't want it to get stuck on there. 



Once I got the column sorted out I started on my pedals. I didnt feel like spending the money on a pedal seal kit, so I made one. 


It works..and it was free. I had some springs i my spring box and I used the same rubber that I made my body mounts out of. 



I also finished my t-case lever pin access hole. I made it nice and big so I have room to work. 


I think that is it for today! 
Tires shipment was held up by weather so hopefully they get here tomorrow. 





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athawk11 said: "The steering gear box was also originally shimmed between the box and the frame...to adjust the overall steering assembly angle."
  Tim is right, as you have found out. Now you need to complete the job, you're half-way there. You need some more shim. Any mis-alignment of the shaft will cause undue wear on that "un-impressive" upper bearing, and on the two ball bearings in the box. BW
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