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ndnchf
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Is there any notable difference between this transmission & TC that I think came out of an M38A1, compared to those in a CJ2A? This one was obviously mated to a V8 at some point. I'm just wondering if i should make an offer on it just to have some spare parts. Your thoughts? What would be a fair offer? Thanks.
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Lee MN
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Doesent look A-1, the A-1 has a different parking brake, shift lever would be held on by a threaded retainer, can't tell from the photo but the t/c pivot would be a threaded bolt not a pin!. Looks civilian to me, not to say it's not built from different sources.
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Thanks Lee. I may be wrong. The same guy is selling an M38A1 tub, so I speculated that it was the same. Here is another view.
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My experience with a T90 that had been mated to a 350 is that I had to rebuild it to use it. It was a T90A and is now a T90C. Novak was the source for the parts.
It is now working well behind a pinto engine. It took all the bearings and most of the gears to get it working. Just my limited experience with a T90. Tom |
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Bruce W
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If it's been stored outside for very long, it'll be full of water and rust. Rain water will run down the shift cane and right inside. BW
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It is NOT a Jeep Willys! It is a Willys jeep.
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Outside storage does concern me. But I think he's had a tarp over it. I'm just thinking that if it could be had cheaply, it would be good to grab for parts or to rebuild and have on the shelf.
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If the seller is willing, remove the top and look in. Rusted gear clusters and parts aren’t worth the time unless you just need a case or if the if the price is right.
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ndnchf
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He says I can remove the top and check it out. Will probably go over on Saturday. I've not pulled one of these apart before. Is it just a matter of removing the 6 bolts and lifting off the shift tower?
Looks like I'll have to remove it from the bell housing too. Its in a frame that looks to be sitting on concrete. Any tips for removing the assembly with damage? Anything else to look for? Thanks,
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Bruce W
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Yes, just unbolt the top and lift it off.
Support the engine, even raise it just a bit, as it will have no rear support when you unbolt the transmission. Unbolt the transmission and transfer case mounts from the crossmember, unbolt the T-90-to-GM adapter from the bellhousing or the transmission from the adapter and pull it away from the engine. Don't forget to disconnect the speedometer cable if it has one. Make sure you get the adapter with it. This transmission will have the long input shaft to work with the adapter, and the two should stay together. BW
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ndnchf
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Thanks Bruce!
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Hey2a
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couple more things you can do quick and easy...
1..run through the shifting pattern.... 2..remove drain plug..see what comes out... 3..and pop off the top end...
Hard part is done...looks to be an easy pull,,if salvageable...and if price is right |
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Thanks guys, good tips indeed. I offered $75 for the Transmission and TC if they are not rusted or busted. Seller said ok, so I'll go over on Saturday and check them out. He offered me the motor and frame also for the same price if I wanted, but I declined those.
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If not rusted or busted, that's a good buy. BW
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Is that a V-8 or a V-6? If it's a Buick V-6 (as it appears from what I can see) I'd snag that in a New York minute.
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There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable
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That does look like a Buick V-6 to me as well. If it is, I would own that set up right now. $150 for the engine, bell housing, & gear boxes? All this for less than the bell housing alone? Yes sir, every day! I do wonder what is up with the empty water bottles on the shifter canes? They would not keep water out of the gear boxes. In any case I will recommend that you buy it all. Edited by cpt logger - 06 Dec. 2017 at 7:05am |
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ndnchf
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He said it was a V-6, but I didn't ask which one. He says it came out of a 53-54 CJ, not an M38A1 as I surmised. It looks like he's parting out a couple of jeeps. The water bottles seem odd, maybe they are to keep his dog from poking an eye out ;-)
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ndnchf
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Here is a photo of the motor. Maybe you guys can make a positive ID. I was just going to get the trans and TC to put away for spares, I don't really need or have the storage space for the whole thing. But he said what I don't take will probably go to the scrappers, so maybe I should get it - frame and all...
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I'm guessing that's the Buick 225. Not absolutely certain though.
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