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cjs cj
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Posted: 09 Apr. 2018 at 4:08pm |
Has anyone tried Deestone tires? Need to get a complete set and price is a pretty big factor. Link below
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Cjs Cj
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russnj
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I like the tread, at least with 10 ply tires you probably won't need any air in them!
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One2baja
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X2, the tread pattern looks like the old Firestone Town and Country.
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Nothing Special
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I had load range E tires on my CJ5 (235/85-16 BF Goodrich Mud-Terrains, 32" dia, 9.25" wide). They were OK , but the ride sure improved, especially off-road, when I switched to 33/12.50-15 load range C tires (also BFG M/T). Something to consider.
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smfulle
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7.5 x 16 might be a bit big for a stock flattie. I run 7.00x16 NDTs and they do rub in turns.
I see they have a 7.00 x 16 8 ply in that tread. Never tried the brand.
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Lee MN
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Where are they made ?..... 10 ply tires on a 2500 lb rig doesent sound like a good ride IMO.
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cjs cj
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Yea I didn't see the 10ply part, probably a little to much.I think I saw that the tires are from Thailand. I know I should just suck it up and get the sta traxion 16x650's. But $800 hurts a little on something I won't be driving very often. Thanks for the replies
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rocnroll
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Well not only the 10ply part but Load Range E......that's a hefty tire.
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Joe Friday
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I know I sound like a broken record, but 10 ply RATED does not mean 10 ACTUAL plies.
It's more than likely 2 or 4 ply, and possibly polyester instead of Nylon. They look nice, but the section width on a 7.50 is ,,, 7.5 inches, not NINE.
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Nothing Special
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Tires used to need a certain number of plies to get the desired strength. So they described tire strength by number of plies. Then with different materials and manufacturing methods they could get the same strength with less plies, so they switched to load ranges, letting the manufacturer use however many plies they wanted, as long as it had the strength. Load range E was the name used for what used to require 10 plies.
But people don't like change, and no one knew what "load range E" meant, so they often included the old number of plies rating as a reference (often in parenthesis, which are used to differentiate a reference from a spec on prints). So as Joe Friday said, these tires likely do not have 10 plies. But still, they are load range E tires, which means that only one is needed to support the entire weight of a Jeep (with safety factor!). Stronger is often good, but these tires are going to be STIFF on a lightweight Jeep, which, as already noted, will mean that they will not ride well, no matter how many plies they actually have.
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NCtoy
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I’m going to go ahead and disagree with most everybody else here.
I’ve got a set on my jeep and really like them. Mine are the 700x16 ones. Yes they are load range E. I run about 15 psi in them, but you can run them with almost no air and still don’t get much sidewall flex. The air is mostly there to keep the tires on the beads. They ride just fine though, I noticed no real difference in ride between these and the fully inflated nondirectionals they replaced. Yes they are made in Thailand, if that matters to you. I had two minor issues with them, both related to install. Because they are stiff they are hard to mount. I wouldn’t recommend trying to hand mount them, but a good tire shop shouldn’t have a problem. The other issue was that they would have taken a lot to balance. I didn’t want weights all over my rims, so I tried running them unbalanced. I’ve had no issues with them this way. There is no shake, no shimmy, no death wobble. I’ve run them at over 60 this way, and have had them on for the last 4 years. I dare anybody to drive my jeep and tell me they can feel the tires are unbalanced. My favorite part of these tires is that almost nobody else has them. When I wore my nondirectionals out I wanted something different, that wasn’t on every other jeep, but still had the old school look. On road they ride fine, and overall perform much better than a nondirectional, especially in the wet. They do good off road, the only drawback is the lack of sidewall flex, but most of the time you’ll never notice it. |
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Ol' Unreliable
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As a matter of taste, I wouldn't put those tires on my Jeeps. Ugly as homemade sin! But there's no accounting for taste, is there?
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There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable
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Gunslinger
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Hey Guys,
I just put new shoes on Triple X, I used Hankook 215-85 R16 in the Dyna Pro ATM. The 215-85 is a nice fit on the rims, thats why I chose that size, they are a 10 ply tire as that size is used on the rear of dually pickups. The ride is not so bad, better than the NDTs I had originally and the price was $135 ea. http://www.hankooktire.com/us/transporter.html Several years ago I bought a used set of 215-85 R16 light truck tires, 10 ply, I put about 5000 miles on them and never had an issue. |
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cjs cj
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Thanks again for all the replies. I know tire choice can be a tricky subject. Of the jeeps running modern radial tires on the stock rims, are you using a tube also? I searched around and saw some with tubes some without.
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Cjs Cj
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Gunslinger
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I am not, although I've read that some of the guys that are out doing major off road stuff do have tubes in them. Most of my travel is on tar, but when I go off road there is usually not a road. Has not been a problem yet to not have a tube.
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Rick G
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I’ll agree with NCtoy. I’m running the Interco narrow super swampers in 34x9x16, tho and they are rated at 6 ply. Essentially no sidewall flex even with 0 psi. I run 10 psi to keep them on the rim because the original KH wheels have no safety hump to help keep the bead set. I run on the highway WOT at about 50-53 mph and can tell no difference at 10 psi vs say 25 psi. In reality, if I ran 35-40 psi I might be able to run 55 mph, but I’m speculating. Also, I did not balance my tires. I asked the guy to just see what it would take to balance one and so he put it on the machine and it was going to require 1lb of weights to balance!!! So I’m running them unbalanced. Point is, I can certainly tell no difference in tire pressure or balance on the street at Willys speeds. It doesn’t ride any different either way. The BIG issue is no sidewall flex for off-roading. I’m going to be working on that , however. And, btw, I like the look AND price of those tires. Like Stan said, I might go for the smaller tire, tho. Rick
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rocnroll
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My Swampers are the same way Rick.....and the weights are very unsightly.
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