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3-48s 
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Good Day Rob,
Have you resolved your axle issue yet? If not I have a good spare DS long axle shaft I would donate as long as you pay the packing and shipping costs. If you want to make a donation to my #10536 fund that would be OK too! It was removed from a donor 1948 CJ2A dana 41 about six years ago. If you need photos to be sure please let me know. Greg |
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1948 CJ2A #176528 "Elmer" 1948 CJ2A #155970 "Gray Mule" 1948 CJ2A #155365 "Old Yeller" (GONE) BANTAM T3C # 6147 (GONE) BANTAM T3C # 30856 |
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Bruce W
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Posted: 26 Dec. 2018 at 8:32pm |
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Exactly. And if we would all return those parts with a suggestion to place them where sunlight will never fall on them (you know what I mean), rather than re-make them to work, or "living with it", maybe they would get the hint and do something about it. BW
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It is NOT a Jeep Willys! It is a Willys jeep.
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Ol' Unreliable
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Posted: 26 Dec. 2018 at 9:55pm |
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Look how long it took them to do something about the steering sector shafts that were made so badly. They need to see the complaints.
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There's a reason it's called Ol' Unreliable
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rmneal
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Posted: 27 Dec. 2018 at 3:56am |
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Hey Greg...sent you a PM. You are one of many who make this forum the greatest! Thanks! |
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Posted: 27 Dec. 2018 at 4:11am |
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I called Kaiser Willys this morning and am returning the axle. Super easy to work with. Told them the issue and they're sending a return label, shipping paid! I did break down and order their NOS axle before I saw the generous offer from 3-48s. Sounded like I got the last one they had. Sure looking forward to getting her back on the road!
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3-48s
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Posted: 27 Dec. 2018 at 1:34pm |
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I appreciate the kind word, however I was just paying it forward as we all should on the 2A Page when we can. That is what Ralph Young did on so many occasions when he was with us & I certainly agree. |
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1948 CJ2A #176528 "Elmer" 1948 CJ2A #155970 "Gray Mule" 1948 CJ2A #155365 "Old Yeller" (GONE) BANTAM T3C # 6147 (GONE) BANTAM T3C # 30856 |
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Posted: 28 Dec. 2018 at 9:18pm |
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Just make sure it's not NOS omixada! heck it could have been returned to them before and has been laying on a shelf for many years
Just my $.02
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Belleview ol skool winch soon. '48 CJ2A 283 V8 sm 420 granny low, tera low D18, overdrive,lockers Texan at heart,Alabama by retirement |
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Joe Friday
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Posted: 28 Dec. 2018 at 9:44pm |
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Lets keep in mind that OMIX is an importer. They don't make Jeep parts. They shop for them, import them, inventory them, and ship them.
I agree they 'should' have someone to assure that they are quality in fit and function, but typical Jeep guys don't want to pay high enough parts prices to achieve that level of quality. My bigger concern is whether they continue to sell Jeep parts after the Truck Hero buy-out |
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Got my NOS axle in from Kaiser Willys last Friday, just before I headed out of town for the last weekend of hunting season. I had just enough time to dry fit it on my hub and discovered it is machined almost exactly like the Omix Ada axle. Hmmmm.... Not sure if I mentioned it before, but I have a 1947 parts jeep that I keep out on the old hunting grounds, so I decided I'd go ahead and pull that axle and compare it to the other three here at home.
The Omix Ada and NOS are very similar in most dimensions and the broken one from my '47 is almost identical to the one out of the '48. I'm guessing the "NOS" is a Western Auto NOS from the '60s or something. I began the measurement from the beginning of the taper (1.3775" on all but Omix which was 1.378") down 2". The two new axles were easy see the beginning of the taper, the older ones were a little more difficult.
The Omix Ada diameter at 2" from beginning of taper is 1.2195" = .933" per foot The "NOS" diameter at 2" from beginning of taper is 1.2185" = .939" per foot The 1948 axle diameter at 2" from beginning of taper is 1.1945" = 1.083" per foot The 1947 axle diameter at 2" from beginning of taper is 1.2055" = 1.017" per foot   The Omix and "NOS" seem to be a beefier axle than the two "originals" I have. Not sure exactly what I'm going to do. I had planned on rebuilding the axles on my parts jeep and use them on a future project. It's sure looking like I have two axles I'm going to have to return to KW. Man...why can't jeep ownership be affordable.... |
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Bill2A
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Posted: 12 Jan. 2019 at 1:44am |
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I was hoping to see a post saying everything was worked out.
The 47 axel looks a bit longer and maybe not quite straight.
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TERRY
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Posted: 12 Jan. 2019 at 1:57am |
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Could the hub be the problem?
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Posted: 12 Jan. 2019 at 4:16am |
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I'd bet that they are beefier to try to make up for lesser quality steel.
Bummer about the problems you're having. I prefer good used parts to anything offered by O-A. They're okay for for shift knobs and such....maybe......but that's where it ends for me. Hate when places that sell new parts don't disclose, and sometimes try to hide, that they are selling O-A parts. That should tell ya something right there.
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Mark W.
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Posted: 12 Jan. 2019 at 8:18am |
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You can not judge the straightness of anything based on a photo off the internet. Especially if the photo was taken with the short focal length lenses in a cell phone camera as they all suffer from some degree of Barrel Distortion Think close up of a face where the NOSE looks huge and the ear look small thats a form of barrel distortion. If you draw a perfectly straight line on a white piece of paper and hold your camera directly over it from say 18" away the line will appear to have a slight curve to it. Keep in mind that many of these parts have been used in India since they started making Willys jeeps there in 1947. Granted this is no excuse for something being out of spec.
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1948 2A Body Customized 1949 3A W/S 1957 CJ5 Frame Modified Late 50's 134L 9.25"clutch T90A D18 (1.25") D44/30 flanged E-Locker D25 5.38 Since 1962 |
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Posted: 12 Jan. 2019 at 1:33pm |
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The most obvious difference to me are the length of the keyway and the thicknesses of the "flange" just inboard of the keyway.
Not sure this could cause your problems, but the differences in these two items are marked!
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rmneal
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Posted: 13 Jan. 2019 at 5:58am |
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Yeah, this has been quite a whipping! I mis-typed in my post...my parts jeep is actually a '48, not a '47. The '47 axle looks longer because it was the one that broke. You can see the break right in the middle which adds a little "length" to it compared to the others lying next to it. That's also why it does not appear straight.
I wish I knew, Terry. I brought the hub and axle home from the '48 parts jeep...just in case I needed to use them as a set. The '48 hub will need a bit of rust removal, so I'm hoping my '47 hub fits with no issues.
Yeah, some of the stuff I see from them are like Harbor Freight...the basic layout of the part you need it's just up to the buyer to finish it out! lol
In so far as I can tell, the Omix and "NOS" axles would both work if you put them back on a lathe and shaved the taper down to 1" per foot...currently they are ~.93" per foot. |
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Posted: 13 Jan. 2019 at 6:07am |
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I can feel your frustration from here. You could have a good machine shop fix it but they just sent the wrong part and it is up to them to make it right, not for you to pay for it.
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Bill2A
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Posted: 13 Jan. 2019 at 6:23am |
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It would be nice if some one could find what the original spec is for that taper.
I wonder if hubs differ that much. Was there a revision for some reason? Maybe OA just made it fit a worn hub they had on hand? The 48 parts will get it back together, but it would be nice to know what is really right.
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