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    Posted: 11 Feb. 2021 at 5:47am
Jgodfrey. I have started a frame off rebuild if my 48. Had the indiana title and took it in. A few weeks later DMV told me I had to track down a newer title some place in US. I found my vin in Maryland 155369 but for a 1995 American general truck. (Humvee). Finally got certified letter from Maryland and now waiting on MN DMV to issue my MN title. Hoping they don’t balk for something else. I am in Hastings and still removing stuff. Need to get the steering wheel off but so far no luck. 

Let me know if I can do anything to help out 

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Ok as I have never bought  a vehicle from outside Oregon, I know little of that process.
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Originally posted by IRQVET IRQVET wrote:

Originally posted by Mark W. Mark W. wrote:

IRQVET thats interesting I haddn't heard of anyone having to go to OSP for an inspection. Was it due to coming from another state or were you missing a valid title or something.
 
I'm no expert on the subject, but from what the DMV told me is Oregon requires a 100% VIN inspection on any out-of-state vehicle that comes into Oregon for the first time. I only know two people who bought Jeeps in California and dragged them back up here to Oregon, and both of them had to go through the OSP VIN inspection.
 
OSP will either look at all the serial numbers and decide which one to use. Or, they can say screw it and issue their own serial number that comes on a custom blue plate that they issue and control.
 
The VIN number California issued on the title was a mystery. That number didn't match the serial number or body tag. License plates matched, but that was about it. Its possible it was the number off the frame tag, but mine was missing that when I bought it.
 
California title listed first year sold as early 1949 (even though the serial number puts it built in 1948). That is also why mine is titled as a 1949 when its really a 1948. Back then I guess California based the year on the year it was first sold and titled, and not based on the year it was built.  Mine might have sat on the dealers lot for a while in 1948, until it finally sold in early 1949.


I have a '46 here in Kalifornia that had the similar situation.  The VIN research I did here on the CJ2A Page indicated it was within the range of a 1946, but my registration and title indicated "Year First Sold 00/00/1947, Model Year 1946".  That confused the Hell out of me until I asked the DMV people about it and they told me it was a 1946 year model, and was sold sometime in 1947, but the specific date it was sold in 1947 was not recorded.
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I tried going to the site.  He has a new and n old site, but I am having problems with both.  I emailed him so I will likely order them that way.

My firewall tags are missing, and so is the passenger-side dash tag.  I have 6 holes there, so it looks like I will order the longer tag.

My frame tag is intact, so in MN that is all you need.  But I will be getting this new tag for the firewall with my 46877 SN engraved.  That is awesome!

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Ah good to know having never brought a car in from out of state I did not know that. When I bought my 66 Chevelle the goober that sold it to me (No engine no trans no interior)had lost the title and I ended up with all the previous paper work and bills of sale and a very detailed Bill of Sale from him complete with witness signatures.

I sold it to a local guy who was very experienced with restoring and building Chevy Muscle cars he was quite satisfied with the paper trail and said he would have no trouble registering it once done. The State of CA told me to pound sand the car had been out of their system for more then 10 years so nothing was available short of paying a huge amount of money for a physical paper search in some basement (I said screw that). SO I never ran into this even with the Chevelle.
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My California titled Jeep used the engine number as the VIN.
 
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Originally posted by Mark W. Mark W. wrote:

IRQVET thats interesting I haddn't heard of anyone having to go to OSP for an inspection. Was it due to coming from another state or were you missing a valid title or something.
 
I'm no expert on the subject, but from what the DMV told me is Oregon requires a 100% VIN inspection on any out-of-state vehicle that comes into Oregon for the first time. I only know two people who bought Jeeps in California and dragged them back up here to Oregon, and both of them had to go through the OSP VIN inspection.
 
OSP will either look at all the serial numbers and decide which one to use. Or, they can say screw it and issue their own serial number that comes on a custom blue plate that they issue and control.
 
The VIN number California issued on the title was a mystery. That number didn't match the serial number or body tag. License plates matched, but that was about it. Its possible it was the number off the frame tag, but mine was missing that when I bought it.
 
California title listed first year sold as early 1949 (even though the serial number puts it built in 1948). That is also why mine is titled as a 1949 when its really a 1948. Back then I guess California based the year on the year it was first sold and titled, and not based on the year it was built.  Mine might have sat on the dealers lot for a while in 1948, until it finally sold in early 1949.


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IRQVET thats interesting I haddn't heard of anyone having to go to OSP for an inspection. Was it due to coming from another state or were you missing a valid title or something.

I have a title that dates back to 1962 here in Oregon and just a few days after Dad sold CHUG to me before he passed I transferred the title to my name (mostly so no one could screw with me in Dads will). I even got DMV to return me the title with dads name on it. (big advantage to having a Local DMV office manager who had a crush on me in Hi School LOL).
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Originally posted by SE Kansas 46 CJ-2A SE Kansas 46 CJ-2A wrote:

Originally posted by atomicflatulence atomicflatulence wrote:

So a good title is only I really really need?
Some states require an inspection before the vehicle can be tagged.  

I just went through this myself. Mine had a California title and the VIN on the title didn't match the one on the Jeep. When I took it to Oregon, it had to get a VIN inspection by the Oregon State Police (OSP). I was told this was a very common process with old Jeeps as parts and pieces often get swapped around. 

OSP just had the DMV use the serial number off my main tag. I had the main tag, and the body tag, but no frame tag. I also popped for antique plates I scored off eBay. That way I got lifetime registration for only $100 bucks. Thumbs Up
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I got plates from him about 8 months ago. 
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I see this thread is a bit old but I'm curious; has anyone used the dataplates4u lately. I emailed and never got a response.
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Omg.  I just saw this.  

Definitely shoot me a pm.  I haven’t been part of a Jeep group in a long while. 

I’m just started learning about these old Willy’s and I’ve read a lot, but still have very little actual experience working on them. 
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We’re in Kansas are you? I’m in Lansing. Do you have a Willy’s?
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I had a title, when I purchased my 47-2a, that was last titled in 1972. I had a tough time last year re-titling. NJDMV (Runnemede) made me pencil sketch my frame tag(front drivers side frame behind the bumper/numbers HAD to match the title). Then, the clerk, with help from his supervisor, could not get the old, 3"x8" brown title number to register. They said the new system required more numbers in the vin then was provided on the old title.Wacko

After a couple hours, a pencil sketch, and a notarized letter from the seller(who moved to North Carolina) I completed an affidavit declaring that I was telling the truth and finally a new title was issued to me. 

other than that, Atomicflatulence, it was a walk in the park!

I have a daughter in Pemberton. I will PM you to see if there is anything we can do for each other; if that's cool?
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If/when you need data plates, you cannot do better than Dataplates4u. They are awesome!
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Use a very light cleaning/sanding technique and be patient.  You should be able to get the plate numbers to show.  This is what you're looking for...
1- 1946 CJ2A   
2- 1949 CJ3A
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Does your rig have a frame tag, and if so does that number match the title?  

ETA: sometimes on stamped tags you can remove them and read them from the back... and those in the pic are so far gone I'd have no reservations sanding from the front trying to find something to read, kind of like sanding the hood of an MB/gpw looking for hood numbers


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The title should be a serviceable Willy’s serial number. So if your title looks like the number it should be, this may require a bit of serial number research, you could have the data plate stamped with that correct number. Unfortunately as these jeeps have been passed around titles get all jumbled up. Many times we see engine numbers listed as the serial number on the title or you’ll see numbers that make absolutely no sense. So, fo example, let’s say you have a 48 and the number on the title says it’s a 46 then maybe the number is wrong. Do your research.
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