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    Posted: 19 Oct. 2019 at 8:54pm
After wrestling my motor and transmission for several weeks now and getting as far as through the clutch, but NOT into the pilot bushing, I am getting ready to pull it back apart and re-align the clutch.  I made one out of wood, but would prefer to borrow a used input shaft to get a better alignment.  

Is there anyone that would loan me one?  I will pay shipping.

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Did'nt a plastic one come with the clutch kit?  Your local parts shop should be able to get one.  My Carquest guy is really helpful.   
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If you have a new pilot bushing. It will most likely need to be reamed to a couple thousands larger then the input shaft in order for it to fit together. I had to do mine.
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I didn't buy a kit and none of my local parts places had one that fit.  Going to try a machine shop on Monday

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Mark may be right, your bushing may need cleaned up some. If you strike out on finding a useable tool send me a PM. I have an old shaft I could loan. Would be cheaper if someone local had one. I know I have used one from a local shop. Anyone doing that type of work in your area should have what you need. 

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I made an alingment tool on the lathe turning down a piece of Aluminum to the proper dimensions (it fit the clutch snug and the pilot bushing snug).
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I'd be happy to loan you my plastic alignment tool if you don't find one
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Where in Mississippi are you located? I'm just North of the Coast, South of Lucedale, North of Pascagoula. I have a couple spare plastic alignment tools that come with the kits.
you can use one of mine if you like. If your close you can pick it up, or gimme an address I'll ship it.
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I've always found that the plastic one's get you close, but I always end of having to just eyeball it to get it perfect. I use one eye, and move my head around to make sure it's centered perfectly. Maybe no one else has to do this, but to me, my eye is more accurate than the tool. 
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Originally posted by drm101 drm101 wrote:

I've always found that the plastic one's get you close, but I always end of having to just eyeball it to get it perfect. I use one eye, and move my head around to make sure it's centered perfectly. Maybe no one else has to do this, but to me, my eye is more accurate than the tool. 


   2X, I have used a rod of pilot size and centered the clutch by eye for years without any problems. Same principle as a peep sight on a rifle.

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I have used the eye ball method too with some success.
But the best method I've found is to tighten down the pressure plate bolts until the disc is snug but can still be moved with a little effort then slide the alignment tool out and back in, paying attention to how much drag you can feel as the nose of the tool slides in the pilot bearing.
Use the alignment tool to shove the disc back and forth until you can slide the tool in and out without any drag. Tighten the bolts down and check it again to make sure it's still perfectly aligned.
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Originally posted by CJ2atlas CJ2atlas wrote:


But the best method I've found is to tighten down the pressure plate bolts until the disc is snug but can still be moved with a little effort then slide the alignment tool out and back in, paying attention to how much drag you can feel as the nose of the tool slides in the pilot bearing.
Use the alignment tool to shove the disc back and forth until you can slide the tool in and out without any drag. Tighten the bolts down and check it again to make sure it's still perfectly aligned.


There's the procedure..

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You can also use an input shaft from a t90 as a tool to line up the clutch and pilot bushing when tightening up the pressure plate.
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Steve, that's what I use also.....nobody ought to ever junk a T-90 before they remove the input shaft for their toolbox IMO.

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Originally posted by rocnroll rocnroll wrote:

Steve, that's what I use also.....nobody ought to ever junk a T-90 before they remove the input shaft for their toolbox IMO.


I happen to have a couple of input shafts in the scrap pile now - I don't need them, I've had one for a long time - but if anyone wants one and is willing to pay the shipping plus a six-pack, I'll send them one.  BW
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Agree on the input shafts, keep at least one. I also have a cut to length counter shaft for assembling those nasty little roller bearings in my T90 box. They both come in very handy at times. 

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